Id please?

maurod · 05-24-2005, 12:32 AM

I got this little 1cm across coral type thing on a rock, at night it polyps out about a dozen or so 1.5cm long tentacles with ball shaped tips. The bulbous protusion in the foreground seems to be a bud/tenacle active during the day.

The image is a tiny bit fuzzy, but sufficiently large, for an id I hope. I really hope it's not a Manjano

Much larger image:
http://www.maurophotography.com/salt...h/_DSC4001.jpg

Thanks,
M.

skyedolphan · 05-24-2005, 07:06 AM

still havent gotten this one figured huh?
I am still thinking tunicate cayse of the funnel but if this is the same one i am thinking it is keep your eyes on it either baby shroom or anemone I believe a bunch of those came in on the oyster and Lam could take a closer look I rememeber he knew or suspected what they were .

maurod · 05-24-2005, 08:55 AM

I am pretty confident it is some form of softy coral or anenomae.
My fear it that it's the dreaded manjano, but I'd hate to kill a cool anenomae or shroom.

M.

Lam · 05-24-2005, 11:09 AM

fascinating...

My opinion is it's not a tunicate, majano, or shroom. You say the tentacles are 1.5 and the body is 1 cm? The tentacles are longer than the body? Does it seem like it has a bony structure to it? If it's all soft, I'd say a type of anemone.

At first I was thinking a baby lps but I can't tell if there's a bony structure to it or not. It's a cool-looking color!

maurod · 05-24-2005, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lam

fascinating...

My opinion is it's not a tunicate, majano, or shroom. You say the tentacles are 1.5 and the body is 1 cm? The tentacles are longer than the body? Does it seem like it has a bony structure to it? If it's all soft, I'd say a type of anemone.

At first I was thinking a baby lps but I can't tell if there's a bony structure to it or not. It's a cool-looking color!

The body is not more than 12mm across and the tenatcles that protrude at night are about 1.5x that size so the whole thing looks about 28-30mm in diameter.
The polyps that pop up at night look a lot like a manjano, hence my paranoia

To give you an idea of the scale of that thing, those black spots in the large image are dust specs on my CCD!

Thanks for the input Lam, it is a cool color, hence my desire not to kill it without knowing what it is.

M.

JustDavidP · 05-24-2005, 02:56 PM

I've had some of those on the Fiji rock that I bought. Someone told me that they are an unidentified cup coral. Does it look like this when it is open:

http://www.marlin.ac.uk/images/Speci...a/o_carsmi.jpg

Dave

tobyt · 05-24-2005, 03:04 PM

I had one of them in the past. Mine grew to 1" diam then disappeared - probably crawled into the rock somewhere hidden from view.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hlight=anemone

maurod · 05-24-2005, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDavidP

I've had some of those on the Fiji rock that I bought. Someone told me that they are an unidentified cup coral. Does it look like this when it is open:

http://www.marlin.ac.uk/images/Speci...a/o_carsmi.jpg

Dave

Yes David, it looks just like that at night. Isn't that Manjano?

JustDavidP · 05-24-2005, 04:44 PM

No... it is a form of a cup coral. I've got them on fiji rock, but I've heard from others that they are from elsewhere. They are harmless. At night, if you use a flashlight, you can see them under the overhangs of my caves etc. The ONLY problem I've had with them is the couple in my overflow tend to eat baby banggai when they are born and take the ride to the sump.

Dave

TBoisvert · 05-24-2005, 05:00 PM

I have those all over my figi rock.

maurod · 05-31-2005, 09:55 PM

New data:
This thing can eat! This is/was one of my very small hermits, it seems to be getting eaten by that little lump of coral.
It could have been a Narsisu Snale, but I dont think I had any that small.... You are looking at an object between 1.5 and 2 cm in size.

Mini image:

Titanic image:
http://www.maurophotography.com/salt...h/_DSC4102.jpg

Here is an image of the same situation with a medium sized Scarlet hermit in the image. ( I think he wanted to split the meal)
Mini Image

Titanic:
http://www.maurophotography.com/salt...h/_DSC4101.jpg

saltwaterB · 05-31-2005, 10:28 PM

Is it completely soft or does it have a skeleton?

-B-

maurod · 05-31-2005, 10:35 PM

It seems soft. I dont detect a hard skeleton on the edge at all.
I have touched it quite a bit just checking for a skeleton.

I'll be having nightmares about that thing eating my hand now

M.

saltwaterB · 05-31-2005, 11:14 PM

With no skeleton it is probably not the cup corals, they are a stony coral.
Some type of Anemone ?
Try and get a pic when the tentacles are out.

-B-

NateHanson · 05-31-2005, 11:18 PM

Looks like it could be the mini-carpet anemones that many people have. Similar color and texture, but yours is much smaller than the ones I've seen in other tanks.

jmkeary has a bunch, and one ate a lettuce nudibranch much larger than itself mere seconds after the slug was dropped into the tank.

Nate

saltwaterB · 05-31-2005, 11:19 PM

Gotta teach those slugs not to walk on the carpet. LOL hehehehe

-B-

One Eye · 05-31-2005, 11:47 PM

Here's a pic of a mini carpet and manjanos. I don't think your pic really looks like either.

One Eye · 05-31-2005, 11:52 PM

Hey Look! There's even a couple flat worms in that pic...and some hair algea.. ahh nothing like a nice healthy tank

it's an older pic, That tank is now pest free, after many different treatments and a Racoon Butterflyfish

saltwaterB · 06-01-2005, 12:00 AM

One Eye,
I need to rid a tank of Manjanos. Did the Raccoon hit any LPS or Clams.

I HATE MANJANOS!!!!!!!

-B-

One Eye · 06-01-2005, 12:07 AM

When the manjano get to small to be a full meal, all is fair game! Unless you are the one lucky reefer that I know who has the perfect citizen for a racoon. Fun part is, after the racoon "cleans" the the tank and begins eating zoas, tube worms...anything with polyps, and you take it out of the tank....the manjanos come right back x1,000

05-24-2005, 12:32 AM	#1
maurod Former BOD Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brockton, MA Posts: 3,630 iTrader: (13)	Id please? I got this little 1cm across coral type thing on a rock, at night it polyps out about a dozen or so 1.5cm long tentacles with ball shaped tips. The bulbous protusion in the foreground seems to be a bud/tenacle active during the day. The image is a tiny bit fuzzy, but sufficiently large, for an id I hope. I really hope it's not a Manjano Much larger image: http://www.maurophotography.com/salt...h/_DSC4001.jpg Thanks, M. Last edited by maurod; 05-24-2005 at 12:48 AM.

05-24-2005, 02:56 PM	#6
JustDavidP Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Marlborough, MA Posts: 2,743 iTrader: (2)	I've had some of those on the Fiji rock that I bought. Someone told me that they are an unidentified cup coral. Does it look like this when it is open: http://www.marlin.ac.uk/images/Speci...a/o_carsmi.jpg Dave __________________ Trying Hard To Get Back Into Reef!!! ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> "Fins to the left...Fins to the Right, I'm going home to play with my reef tonight..."

05-24-2005, 03:04 PM	#7
tobyt I need a vacation Join Date: May 2004 Location: Newton, MA Posts: 75 iTrader: (0)	possibly a Pseudocorynactis I had one of them in the past. Mine grew to 1" diam then disappeared - probably crawled into the rock somewhere hidden from view. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hlight=anemone

05-24-2005, 04:44 PM	#9
JustDavidP Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Marlborough, MA Posts: 2,743 iTrader: (2)	No... it is a form of a cup coral. I've got them on fiji rock, but I've heard from others that they are from elsewhere. They are harmless. At night, if you use a flashlight, you can see them under the overhangs of my caves etc. The ONLY problem I've had with them is the couple in my overflow tend to eat baby banggai when they are born and take the ride to the sump. Dave __________________ Trying Hard To Get Back Into Reef!!! ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> "Fins to the left...Fins to the Right, I'm going home to play with my reef tonight..."

05-31-2005, 11:47 PM	#17
One Eye former vp of pr Join Date: May 2004 Location: somewhere around here Posts: 3,753 iTrader: (0)	Here's a pic of a mini carpet and manjanos. I don't think your pic really looks like either. Attached Images __________________ What you don't know can't hurt you....just ask Abe Lincoln and JFK.

05-24-2005, 07:06 AM	#2
skyedolphan Old Sea Dog Join Date: May 2004 Location: woonsocket,RI 02895 Posts: 4,244 iTrader: (29)	still havent gotten this one figured huh? I am still thinking tunicate cayse of the funnel but if this is the same one i am thinking it is keep your eyes on it either baby shroom or anemone I believe a bunch of those came in on the oyster and Lam could take a closer look I rememeber he knew or suspected what they were .

05-24-2005, 08:55 AM	#3
maurod Former BOD Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brockton, MA Posts: 3,630 iTrader: (13)	I am pretty confident it is some form of softy coral or anenomae. My fear it that it's the dreaded manjano, but I'd hate to kill a cool anenomae or shroom. M.

05-24-2005, 11:09 AM	#4
Lam aka Auberon Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seekonk Posts: 443 iTrader: (0)	fascinating... My opinion is it's not a tunicate, majano, or shroom. You say the tentacles are 1.5 and the body is 1 cm? The tentacles are longer than the body? Does it seem like it has a bony structure to it? If it's all soft, I'd say a type of anemone. At first I was thinking a baby lps but I can't tell if there's a bony structure to it or not. It's a cool-looking color!

05-24-2005, 05:00 PM	#10
TBoisvert Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,085 iTrader: (0)	I have those all over my figi rock.

05-31-2005, 09:55 PM	#11
maurod Former BOD Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brockton, MA Posts: 3,630 iTrader: (13)	New data: This thing can eat! This is/was one of my very small hermits, it seems to be getting eaten by that little lump of coral. It could have been a Narsisu Snale, but I dont think I had any that small.... You are looking at an object between 1.5 and 2 cm in size. Mini image: Titanic image: http://www.maurophotography.com/salt...h/_DSC4102.jpg Here is an image of the same situation with a medium sized Scarlet hermit in the image. ( I think he wanted to split the meal) Mini Image Titanic: http://www.maurophotography.com/salt...h/_DSC4101.jpg

05-31-2005, 10:28 PM	#12
saltwaterB Acanoholic Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,878 iTrader: (3)	Is it completely soft or does it have a skeleton? -B-

05-31-2005, 10:35 PM	#13
maurod Former BOD Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brockton, MA Posts: 3,630 iTrader: (13)	It seems soft. I dont detect a hard skeleton on the edge at all. I have touched it quite a bit just checking for a skeleton. I'll be having nightmares about that thing eating my hand now M.

05-31-2005, 11:14 PM	#14
saltwaterB Acanoholic Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,878 iTrader: (3)	With no skeleton it is probably not the cup corals, they are a stony coral. Some type of Anemone ? Try and get a pic when the tentacles are out. -B-

05-31-2005, 11:18 PM	#15
NateHanson Old Sea Dog Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ellsworth, Maine Posts: 14,998 iTrader: (1)	Looks like it could be the mini-carpet anemones that many people have. Similar color and texture, but yours is much smaller than the ones I've seen in other tanks. jmkeary has a bunch, and one ate a lettuce nudibranch much larger than itself mere seconds after the slug was dropped into the tank. Nate

05-31-2005, 11:19 PM	#16
saltwaterB Acanoholic Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,878 iTrader: (3)	Gotta teach those slugs not to walk on the carpet. LOL hehehehe -B-

05-31-2005, 11:52 PM	#18
One Eye former vp of pr Join Date: May 2004 Location: somewhere around here Posts: 3,753 iTrader: (0)	Hey Look! There's even a couple flat worms in that pic...and some hair algea.. ahh nothing like a nice healthy tank it's an older pic, That tank is now pest free, after many different treatments and a Racoon Butterflyfish __________________ What you don't know can't hurt you....just ask Abe Lincoln and JFK.

06-01-2005, 12:00 AM	#19
saltwaterB Acanoholic Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,878 iTrader: (3)	One Eye, I need to rid a tank of Manjanos. Did the Raccoon hit any LPS or Clams. I HATE MANJANOS!!!!!!! -B-

06-01-2005, 12:07 AM	#20
One Eye former vp of pr Join Date: May 2004 Location: somewhere around here Posts: 3,753 iTrader: (0)	When the manjano get to small to be a full meal, all is fair game! Unless you are the one lucky reefer that I know who has the perfect citizen for a racoon. Fun part is, after the racoon "cleans" the the tank and begins eating zoas, tube worms...anything with polyps, and you take it out of the tank....the manjanos come right back x1,000 __________________ What you don't know can't hurt you....just ask Abe Lincoln and JFK.