Glass Cages was always a big name when I was in the hobby, but they were a bit sloppy iirc. I’m looking to get a standard size 180 , euro braced, with star fire glass for front viewing panel. What do you recommend? Not looking for stand or hood. Also, what are people using for overflows? Calfo overflows were popular. My 210 had huge corner overflows and I always hated them. I'm looking to take up as little space as possible inside the tank. Tia!
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Check out the innovative marine 170EXT 60" X 30" X 22" or 200EXT 72" X 30" X 22" they are a solid solid setup with a nice APS Aluminum stand included with the cost. A number of us here have upgraded recently with these models. Glass cages does a nice tank these days. Reach out to Joe and have a discussion before you writhe them off.
Joe who? I’m looking to get something 24” high, that’s why I’m thinking a 180. I had a 7’ 210, so this would only be 12” shorter. I want to be able to reach the bottom of the tank easily.
Also, we used Southdown sand right from the beaches. What is everyone using now?
Joe Munden. Glass cages is basically not even the same company. Far and away improved from what they were years ago. Reach out to Joe. We have an order coming through for a custom acrylic. Depending upon what you are looking for, we may be able to save you some freight
I reached out to him for the best contact # BTW they are under new ownership.
sent a DM with Joes contact info at Glass Cages
People no run with out sand and have imo more successful reef tanks.The build quality of every tank has improved also sure your gonna hear red sea horror stories but with them making so many tanks there fail rate just seems higher in the industry but I bet it's under 10% failed. So if I was in the market for a new tank under 300gallons I wouldn't buy a custom its not worth the 3xcost if not more. Also with your comment your gonna make or supply a stand that means warrenty on most customs is out the window they want there tanks on there stands. You should really look at the inovative marine or water box/ red sea tanks imo. If you really wanna go custom look at planet tanks.
Thanks for the info no! I always had deep sand beds with great success. Much more organisms will breed and grow in the sand. I had a beautiful tube anemone and they require a deep sand bad along with a few others. I prefer the look of sand also.
Deep sand beds are a no go imo any more. Definitely the lest popular. Deep sand beds lead to many problems in the long term only really help with deniteifacation and need to be cleaned and stirred regularly to avoid deadly gas pockets. Lots of animals you were told and thought required sand in the past really dont need it.i understand not liking the look but I prefer a easy system to take care of and just enjoy watching it more then working on it.
Definitely agree with this as I used to think a deep sand bed was needed and now that I only use 1-2" sand beds I have had far less issues over all. It seemed inevitable that somehow the toxic gases that build up in the DSB that help with nitrates somehow get stirred up and caused issues and I was way too forgetful and never mixed it up like I should have!
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This, they are completely different company under Joe.
Good tanks. He turned their reputation around in about 5 years.
I have to deeply disagree. I know I’m old school, but I have never have to stir up or disturb a deep sand bed ever. It allows more beneficial organisms than the downside, which I have never experienced. I’ve have tanks running for 15+ years with deep sand beds that were extremely healthy and thriving. I’m not sure who is still here, but ask anyone who has seen my systems in the past. Not an argument, just a preference. I’ve never run a tank without sand. It just looks took fake imo.
If kept properly with the correct detritus eaters, they are very beneficial imho.
I’ve seen your tanks and agree that it’s all subjective. People will blame anything for their shortcomings. Sometimes it’s blaming it on the wrong thing. My old school tanks ran from ne with a 4-5 inch deep sand bed for years. Only reason I’m running bare bottom is because of running a smaller tank. 16 inches tall isn’t enough to run the flow necessary for sps without disturbing the sandbed.
I've heard that there are some reefs in nature that have a DSB. It might just work, lol!
I never understand the bare bottom look or the (non)science behind it.
Most of these folks usually quit after 3 years.
I’ve been happy with Miracle. They built both my previous 360G(72”x48”x24) and this current 345G(84”x34”x28”). I wouldn’t say it’s aesthetically perfect but it’s very well built and that’s more important.
I would never run a tank without sand I think there's far more benefits to running a tank with sand than bare bottom. I used to keep a DSB and never had the necessary CUC to stir it up properly. I switched to a much thinner sand bed and I haven't noticed much of a difference and my main point was that since I have switched I don't have to worry about stirring up a DSB with CUC or by hand. I think I had one mini crash from accidentally stirring up an old DSB by accident after not doing it properly.
I hate the look of bare bottom tanks. Only thing it's good for IMO is siphoning up detritus. It just looks so fake.
Definitely can’t stir them up. Too much anaerobic bacteria in a dsd.
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