FWIW, don't add a six line to your tank unless it's the only wrasse/small fish you want in there. It will go "Mike Tyson" on you eventually.
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Gina McReeferson
My sweet Baby David
I wouldn't get too alarmed. I think they are present in many tanks and go unoticed or worried about. It is only if conditions lign up just right that a population explosion may occur, even then, they are not much more than a pain in the butt while you work to get rid of them. There are many, many things you could have that would be much, much worse than them, even at plague proportions IMO. They are just an ugly nuisance, and finding one or two doesn't mean a disaster is eminent.
-Dave
-Dave
I agree with what dave/gina said. I only suggest the early intervention with the FW exit if they do seem to be the nusiance FW's, and you start the population start to expand rapidly.
Dumping chemicals into the tank everytime you see a problem is not a good practice at all, but if you do see the plauge coming FW exit doesn't seem to be all that risky IME.
Watch the FW's closely, if you see 1 or 2 now, and a few dozen in a week or two, they're likely the nusiance ones. In that case I would suggest considering the treatment. If you don't start seeing many more of them, don't worry.
There are so many kinds of FW as greg said, many are harmless (like the opace ones Mike posted)
If you do decide to use the FW exit, or just want to have some on hand just in case, and CRA doesn't have it (?), skiptons usually does.
Just don't let the plauge get going. If you do, you'll hate it, and you'll need to spend weeks siphioning them out before treating which will be a major PITA.
Dumping chemicals into the tank everytime you see a problem is not a good practice at all, but if you do see the plauge coming FW exit doesn't seem to be all that risky IME.
Watch the FW's closely, if you see 1 or 2 now, and a few dozen in a week or two, they're likely the nusiance ones. In that case I would suggest considering the treatment. If you don't start seeing many more of them, don't worry.
There are so many kinds of FW as greg said, many are harmless (like the opace ones Mike posted)
If you do decide to use the FW exit, or just want to have some on hand just in case, and CRA doesn't have it (?), skiptons usually does.
Just don't let the plauge get going. If you do, you'll hate it, and you'll need to spend weeks siphioning them out before treating which will be a major PITA.
Saltcreep?
Do yours still just show up on the shrooms? If they only seem to be on the shrooms I would assume that yours are the ones that just hang out on the shrooms - which would mean that they are not the ones that reach plauge levels. If or how much they prey on or irritate the shrooms is another quesiton (and I have no idea on the answer?)
Do yours still just show up on the shrooms? If they only seem to be on the shrooms I would assume that yours are the ones that just hang out on the shrooms - which would mean that they are not the ones that reach plauge levels. If or how much they prey on or irritate the shrooms is another quesiton (and I have no idea on the answer?)
SaltCreep
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Since I have noticed them and been watching closely (two to three weeks) they have not increased in numbers and are ONLY on the red shrooms.
So, either they only like to hang out on the red shrooms, or they blend in really welll there and get eaten by fish with sharp eyes if they leave.
Shrooms are fine.....actually doing very well.
So, either they only like to hang out on the red shrooms, or they blend in really welll there and get eaten by fish with sharp eyes if they leave.
Shrooms are fine.....actually doing very well.
Cool, sounds like your may be harmless commensuels (sp?) ?
IIRC, delbeek and sprung "the reef aquarium" shows pics of, and talks about those FW's. Not sure if it's vol 1 or 2?
I'll see if I can look it up.
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Delbeek and sprung "the reef aquarium" vol #1, pages 290-295
worth reading, covers a lot.
IIRC, delbeek and sprung "the reef aquarium" shows pics of, and talks about those FW's. Not sure if it's vol 1 or 2?
I'll see if I can look it up.
edit:
Delbeek and sprung "the reef aquarium" vol #1, pages 290-295
worth reading, covers a lot.
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Aquaman_68
too many gadgets to fail
Looks like the brown ones from the pic on the white tooth brush handle. They aren't a problem most times but can multiply in a closed system if conditions are favorable. Funny thing about them. They can re-populate & disappear in the same system over time with out doing a thing. The usually tend to favor a nutient rich enviroment. (as in your fuge) Six line wrasse & manderans will chow on them till they are gone in the main display. & gte fat in the process as stated earlier in this thread (that is if they are in the display) Some reefers claim they have them but only in there sump/fuge & they never enter the display.
Godd luck..........BTW FWE is pretty strong....Make sure they are a problem before nuking the system.
B
Godd luck..........BTW FWE is pretty strong....Make sure they are a problem before nuking the system.
B
Saltcreep, I have some in my tank that look about like the ones on your mushrooms. Mine hang out on a few of my LPS (green bubble, Caulastrea, and Galaxea). Mine are definetly NOT the photosynthetic ones, I think they are harmless commensals. They don't seem to do any damage to the corals they are on. In fact there are a few on a baby green bubble coral that I nursed back to health from someone that recently gave it to me nearly dead.
People freak all the time now about flatworms. IMO, if you don't find them ON a coral that seems to be doing poorly, the chances of them being a problematic critter are pretty small (other than the red ones). That's not to say you couldn't get a lone one on a coral that you bring into your tank from a tank that has a bad infestation. What I mean is, for example, if you got a Montipora from a tank that was infested with the Acro eating flatworms, you could easily import the Acro eating buggers into your tank if you don't do a dip.
People freak all the time now about flatworms. IMO, if you don't find them ON a coral that seems to be doing poorly, the chances of them being a problematic critter are pretty small (other than the red ones). That's not to say you couldn't get a lone one on a coral that you bring into your tank from a tank that has a bad infestation. What I mean is, for example, if you got a Montipora from a tank that was infested with the Acro eating flatworms, you could easily import the Acro eating buggers into your tank if you don't do a dip.
truckin
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They look like the one I had. When people say they get to plauge proportions, they do! All the little red/brown spots on the rock/glass there all Flat worms. I used FW exit multiple times and they just kept coming back. I recently got a 6 line and she loves eating those little suckers!
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truckin
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fanaglethebagle
Not-so-old Sea Dog
You want to see a red worm infestation go to Kelly's roast beef on rt 9.
Last time I went they were overlapping eachother on the rocks.
Last time I went they were overlapping eachother on the rocks.
