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Blue hippo tang question

Blueflu1

The Acan Reaper!
I have a blue hippo tang with tiny white spots on him. I have had ich a few years ago in another tank, so I am familiar with it. I know tangs are prone to it too.
The tang has been in the DT for about a month. The minute I put him in the tank from the QT, I noticed the spots show up. Looked like tiny pimples. Seemed too quick to get ich and they seem too small to be ich. Could this be something else? I tried getting a pic but he moves too fast. He is eating well and not rubbing against anything. None of the other fish have any spots either. I figured after a month of the spots, the other fish would have gotten them if it was ich. Some days the spots are less noticible too.

Any thoughts?

SG 1.025
PH - 8.4
Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - 0
KH - 10
CA 240
 
When I had my Powder Brown his Ich would come and go like the tide, it was amazing! Seemed like it was on a light switch that someone was turning on and off just to puzzle me.
 
Do they look like little holes? Maybe it could be HLLE?
 
HLLE looks totally different, like flesh eroding away, not pimples.


That sounds like ick to me. How well lit was the QT? IME sometimes a fish will look fine until under bright light, then WOW, where did those spots come from? I infected my tank that way once.... Grrr.
 
I think John may be right. Looking at him again, I can see a few dark spots on him too that look like they may be marks/scars from where the Ich dropped off. Maybe I just didn't see them before with the old PC light.

Question now:
Should I take him out and QT Just him and monitor the others Or,
Should I leave him in there and hope it gets better Or
Should I take all the fish out and QT them. (Not a good option because I don't know if I can get them all out)

If I leave him in, should I raise the water temp to shorten the life cycle of the Ich? I was thinking that this may reduce the contact time with him before they drop off and help him out. It may not even make a difference though.
 
...Question now:
Should I take him out and QT Just him and monitor the others Or,
Should I leave him in there and hope it gets better Or
Should I take all the fish out and QT them. (Not a good option because I don't know if I can get them all out)
This is not an easy question to answer.

Certain tangs are, and always will be, highly susceptible to marine ich. The hippo is one of the most susceptible. What system he is in, what his diet is, and who his tank mates are all matter in terms of susceptibility.

In short, Ich has made it in to your display system.

It might have been there before you added the hippo, or the hippo might have carried it with him through treatment that wasn't completely effective. You don't have to see it for it to be there.

A similar situation happened to me with a PBT that I took through 8 weeks of hyposalinity. The minute I started raising the salinity, the ich returned. Thankfully, I caught it before I would have added him to the display (with hypo, you really have to go right to the edge for it to be completely effective).

What did you use for treatment and for how long? Was he in your display tank before you moved him to the hospital tank? What other fish are in there with him?

From what I recall, there are over a dozen different strains of ich that can be present in a marine aquarium. The good news is that each one that is eliminated from your system is one less to be worried about.

Back to your question, if you take him out of the display tank and treat him, he will be exposed to Ich the minute he returns to your display tank. He may or may not be healthier and better able to fight it off. If there is a drop in tank parameters, he may or may not suffer an outbreak again.

The only way to be truly sure that you eradicate ich is to remove all fish, treat them effectively for ich, and then return them to the display tank after it has sat fallow (without fish) for 8 or so weeks.

This is one of the great decisions that we all have faced at one time. There are many marketed products for supposedly treating ich, but many suspect these products simply make money off of the the hobbyist's desire for a quick and easy fix to a serious and difficult problem, akin to miracle weight loss pills, etc., that champion no need for that annoying dieting and exercise.

I certainly would not bother with raising the temperature. Tangs require heavily oxygenated water, and my experience is that they actually show an improvement in health with increased dissolved oxygen (raising the temperature lowers the oxygen content of the water).

As for garlic, it is an inexpensive try. I personally have never found it effective and I do not believe it works. UV can help a little, but a system would be quickly overcome in an outbreak. None of the other commercial products are completely effective.

Matt:cool:
 
What i noticed on the last 2 fish i added to my tank was that when first put them in I noticed these white spots on them that wern't there seconds ago when they were in my QT. They lasted 2 days on each. I believe they were Mirco bubbles that attached to them when i made the swap.

They are perfect now, But at first it did look like ICH just raised more. Enough to confuse me a lot.
 
What system he is in, what his diet is, and who his tank mates are all matter in terms of susceptibility.

he eats a rotation of Spirulina enriched brine shrimp, mysis shrimp, veggie/seaweed sheets and forumula 2

What did you use for treatment and for how long? Was he in your display tank before you moved him to the hospital tank? What other fish are in there with him?

Just an observation period. I am very familar with hypo, having done it several times with success, but unfortunately I didn't hypo him. Just a 6 week observation.


This is one of the great decisions that we all have faced at one time. There are many marketed products for supposedly treating ich, but many suspect these products simply make money off of the the hobbyist's desire for a quick and easy fix to a serious and difficult problem, akin to miracle weight loss pills, etc., that champion no need for that annoying dieting and exercise.

I don't believe in any of the products. ie-malachite green etc.... Hypo is the way to go.


As for garlic, it is an inexpensive try. I personally have never found it effective and I do not believe it works. UV can help a little, but a system would be quickly overcome in an outbreak. None of the other commercial products are completely effective.

Matt:cool:


I have an UV but not sure If it is worth putting it on. I know it will only get the free swimming ich. May help a bit but not sure if the beneficial bacteria destroyed would conteract the reduction in ich
 
What i noticed on the last 2 fish i added to my tank was that when first put them in I noticed these white spots on them that wern't there seconds ago when they were in my QT. They lasted 2 days on each. I believe they were Mirco bubbles that attached to them when i made the swap.

They are perfect now, But at first it did look like ICH just raised more. Enough to confuse me a lot.


Yea, I had micro bubbles on one of mine too when I put him in and it concerned me until I looked a little closer and saw they weren't as white as ich, then I knew it was bubbles.
 
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