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Chem-Marin Stop Parasite?

GinaD

Very Happy Red Sox Reefer
Has anyone had any experience/luck with this product?
My LFS wanted to sell this to me for the ick on my Pygmy Cherub Angel. I told them I needed to look into it first. So I'm asking your expertise.

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=CM1131


I do not have a quarrantine tank set up yet, but that would not be as big an undertaking as taring down my 30 gal tank to catch the little bugger.

I really don't want to medicate the main tank, and it was suggested to me I try adding a garlick additive to the food. What is the general consensus? TIA!
 
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Buy a cleaner shrimp for ich.
 
But will the cleaner shrimp get along with the paired (mating) tiger shrimp?
 
tiger shrimp? what is that?
 
They are related to the pepermint shrimp.
Here are pics I took tonight. Best I could get. You can see the female with green eggs under her.
 

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they looks like peppermint shrimp to me. Peppermint shrimp is a very general term. I have peppermints with cleaner shrimp. They all do fine together.
 
You either eradicate ick or manage it. You gotta decide on your objective, that will help you decide how to proceed.
 
I have 2 Cleaners, 2 Peppermint and a Coral they all play nice together in the big wet sand box... my yellow tang started with ick when I brought it home and the cleaners went to town on him and he hasn’t gotten it back and it has been over 3 months now. maybe just luck :)
 
a cleaner shrimp kept three tangs clear from ich for a year. When the shrimp passed away, I added two in there. Now I am down to two tangs in the tank (one moved out) and still ich free. I watched the late-cleaner shrimp picked ich off the purple tang. Sometime, two cleaner shrimps will double team on one fish.
 
Very cool. I'll get one, but I think the fish will be afraid of a cleaner shrimp being on him, since they'd be the same size. :eek:
 
Ich

I wouldn't waste time and money on cleaner shrimp, garlic, and other supposed cures. Cleaner shrimp are not guarenteed to clean the Ich, and can be a real nuisance when trying to target feed. Moreover, buying a cleanr shrimp ignores the underlying problem, in that the fish has Ich for a reason.

There are only two approaches to dealing with Ich as Jim mentioned. One approach is to simply eradicate Ich from your system, just as Smallpox was eradicated from humanity. Your fish can't catch the disease if it does not exist in your system. The other approach is to manage Ich within your system. The disease can be present, but the fish do not succumb to it. On a daily basis, we come in contact with all sorts of horrible bacteria and diseases, yet we don't get sick. When healthy, our immune system readily handles these diseases. But when someone is immunocompromised, diseases that they normally would handle readily can become infectious. The same is true for your fish and Ich.

One option you have is to eradicate Ich from your system. This would involve removing all your fish and placing them in a separate treatment tank. In the treatment tank, you would go through a hyposalinity process for 6-8 weeks. Meanwhile, in your main tank, the Ich would be unable to complete its life cycle and be eradicated without a fish host. This is very difficult, since first, you need to set up and cycle a separate tank for treating the Ich. Then, once the fish are introduced, everything added to the system, every frag, rock, sand, and invert, as well as every fish, must be quarentined. The fish can go in the hospital tank for 6-8 weeks. The problem is, with fish in your main tank, the frags and inverts must go in a separate system of normal salinity for 6-8 week so any Ich parasites can complete their life cycle and die without a host. This is all a major undertaking.

The other option you have is to manage Ich within your system. When you see an outbreak, you need to ask yourself why your fish has Ich. In my opinion, fish usually succumb to Ich when they are immunocompromised, which for them, happens with stress and malnutrition, the same as with humans. Check to make sure your parameters and husbandry are optimal. Check that nitrate and phosphate are low, that you are using RO/DI water, and that the conditions in your tank are not too crowded. Also check that the fish are receiving a balanced diet. When you are in the option of managing ICh in your system (as I am), a spot here or there is nothing for alarm, as long as they clear up right away and are located on the dital parts of the fins, and come no more often than every few weeks at most. Ich can be the canary in the coal mine, so to speak. It can be an important warning sign that something in your system is not right.

I hope this helps. Let's go Red Sox.

Matt:cool:
 
Thanks, guys. My angel, as of this morning, looks fine. No spots. :D
But I will (as always) be keeping a close eye on them all.
 
be cautious, part of the ick lifecycle includes the spots disappearing for a week or so, then you see them again but with a vengance.
 
Been there

I Freakin' HATE ICH! :mad:

I went the management route.....and now everyone gets QT time before intro to my main tank. I may go hypo and move all the fish for the 6 weeks once I set up my 92, assuming it ever gets here.
 
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