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Need Help Removing Overflow

Sherri

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I bought a custom 180 with two island overflows and have decided to remove one of the overflows. Easier said than done. Any suggestions? Razor blade cannot get below the glass on the inside. Is there a solvent for silicone?
 
The finest guitar string you can find will make the job easy. Once you slide it through the silcone just work it back and forth, it will slice right through the silicon. Once the overflow box is removed you can clean up any remaining silicone with a razorblade
 
We tried it but the problem is that the glass on the inside of the overflow is touching the glass bottom of the tank...
 
So it's a glass overflow, not plastic?

If so, I'd guess your best bet would be to slice all the accessible seams, then very carefully bend/peel that glass apart at the remaining seam. It won't come apart easily, and you could easily crack the overflow glass in the process, but (assuming the actual tank glass is thicker) I'd feel pretty safe in assuming that the overflow you'd be prying out would break long before the tank itself.

If you try, just wear some really heavy gloves and be very very careful of your hands.
 
I am really worried about stressing the glass on the bottom. Still thinking about this!
 
To play it safe call a glass company and see if they'll send a glass tech with experience that has the tool similar to what I used to cut into silicone. It was a very crude but effective home made tool which was a 12" conduit pipe or longer or shorter to preference of space and I hammered the end of the pipe just enough to insert a utility blade half way in then hammer the end of the pipe to secure the blade in place. Score and cut into the silicone lightly and with patience till the blade has cut through. It was the best method we used to remove glass shower enclosures and store front glass that was siliconed to tile, brick, wood or glass on glass.
 
You could try a few solvents. Fingernail polish remover should help soften the silicone as well as acetone. But they will also damage any plastic/acrylic they come in contact with. You also need to be careful not to get any on any silicone you won't be removing.
But thee best way to see is to cut off a piece of the silicone your trying to remove and see how the solvent work on them.

Obviously you would want to take any precationary measures recomended by each solvents manufacturer
 
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Good ideas ... will try one more thing before going to solvents or a glass company. The two of us will try a bit stronger wire and will start from the corner where we have had some success. When we broke the wire I think we were trying to do too much.
 
Well, the silicone is black colored and nail polish remover did not work. Any other solvent you can think of? Guitar string still not working ... may have to go with Leroy's idea...
 
Sherri I imagine the overflow is made out of 4 pieces of glass, maybe you could remove 1 piece at a time. Use good sharp (new) razor blades to slowly cut through the silicone. You will have to make many passes down each seam and along the bottom. After you have made a few passes with the knife along all the seams of that 1 piece. Pull (gentle pressure) the piece of glass slowly and very very carefully away from the other pieces. While working your way from the top down cut the remaining silicone in the seams. Work both sides at the same time. Cut the bottom seam all the way through last. Repeat for the other 3 sides.
 
Guitar string is not strong enough as they tend to break easily. Piano wire is what you need to do the job. In my profession we sometimes cut auto glass out with piano wire. The glass is bonded to the body with urethane which is much tougher to cut through than silicone. I have a whole roll of piano wire if you need some!
 
also it may help to have a second person holding the opposite pieces of glass while you are working the seams apart. That way it will limit how much pressure is applied to the glass bottom
 
The piano wire is a good idea but my husband thinks it would be too thick. Jennifer -- my husband and I have been doing it together -- we have been trying to get it out in one piece without breaking the glass. Also -- the outside is molded plastic so getting the seams apart one-by-one is not possible as you cannot get to the outside of the seams. We were wondering if heating it would make the silicone more elastic. Not an easy one -- may have to call the company...
 
Any way to get a close up picture. I have taken many many things apart that were surposedly permantly glued together. Sometimes it is just when you are about to give up that you say let me just try this and voila it comes apart.

I would advice against heating the acetone or fingernail polish was the only way I would think would be safe to soften the silicone. Have you cut away all the silicone that is exposed?

Have you tried the guitar string along the seem? instead of feeding it through the seam? I woul start by cut at each corner to give you a guide for the Guitar string then once you have the Guitar string in each corner giude wrap it around small dowel so you can grip it, then slowly saw back and forth.
I would sart on the short ends then the long. It may take some time be very patient. If you get frustrated go do something else and come back.
 
The piano wire is a good idea but my husband thinks it would be too thick. Jennifer -- my husband and I have been doing it together -- we have been trying to get it out in one piece without breaking the glass. Also -- the outside is molded plastic so getting the seams apart one-by-one is not possible as you cannot get to the outside of the seams. We were wondering if heating it would make the silicone more elastic. Not an easy one -- may have to call the company...

Piano wire is very thin and strong. What size guitar string have you tried?
 
A three pound hammer did the trick ...
 

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Hooray!! Congrats Sherri! Knew you guys would get it done. (must have been holding your breath on that first hit)
 
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