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Need Rhinopias help
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itz216
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Diagnosis help
Sherri I don't know anybody local, but here's a great resource for tough marine questions. They have a great staff - answer questions quickly. Posting pics with question along with tank params gets the most accurate response.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm
Good luck.
Sherri I don't know anybody local, but here's a great resource for tough marine questions. They have a great staff - answer questions quickly. Posting pics with question along with tank params gets the most accurate response.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm
Good luck.
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Sherri
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Frank is on RC and has been reading the thread. Also, there is a couple who keep them too. No one knows what to do or what to suggest. He pooped this morning so at least I know he can digest stuff. The vet did not call back, nothing back yet from wetwebmedia, also posted on Marine Depot. Sigh. Not a lot of help is forthcoming.
Sherri,
The reason you are not getting much help. is because nobody really knows the right answer for you. There is not a whole lot known about Rhinopias and their care in captivity. So when one comes across an issue like yours it is truly a learning experience for everyone.
And yes that is truly a beautiful specimen!
The reason you are not getting much help. is because nobody really knows the right answer for you. There is not a whole lot known about Rhinopias and their care in captivity. So when one comes across an issue like yours it is truly a learning experience for everyone.
And yes that is truly a beautiful specimen!
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Sherri
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itz216 -- he has a cloudy eye that comes and goes, he hasn't eaten for 7 days (Bob Fenner says they can go several weeks???) and he has been a bit lethargic. Heavy breathing comes and goes too.
B -- I know -- that's what I figured. And I also don't know if I am being too paranoid??? Maybe I just need to go with the flow but as we all know -- bad things happen quickly. So I don't know if I should be doing something now or what the problem is. You don't think he looks skinny do you?
B -- I know -- that's what I figured. And I also don't know if I am being too paranoid??? Maybe I just need to go with the flow but as we all know -- bad things happen quickly. So I don't know if I should be doing something now or what the problem is. You don't think he looks skinny do you?
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Sherri
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I think I have figured this out -- and it was Bob Fenner and wetwebmedia that really solved the mystery. That tank for some reason is home to a bunch of slugs that hitchhiked in on something. One night when I got up the front glass was covered with them. Add in a sea hare and I think what has happened in the tank is a toxic combination. The feeder fish was almost dead after being in the tank for 48 hours. The rhino has been sitting in one spot -- that spot puts him directly in line for fresh water from the return. So I am passing the sea hare on to a fellow member with a warning to beware, I am moving the rhino to a different tank in the system, and then I am going to systematically (meaning wake up in the middle of the night) harvest the slugs until they are eliminated. Then I will return the rhino to the tank.
The interesting thing is that you would not think to normally mention the slugs when trying to get help in diagnosing a situation. It just points to the fact that it is important to mention everything when searching for help -- the most seemingly meaningless information could be the key. And I have posted looking for help everywhere!
The interesting thing is that you would not think to normally mention the slugs when trying to get help in diagnosing a situation. It just points to the fact that it is important to mention everything when searching for help -- the most seemingly meaningless information could be the key. And I have posted looking for help everywhere!
jackthestrat
DON'T PANIC
This is going to get me in hot water, cause I sure haven't been in this hobby as long as Bob Fenner - but does the toxic random hitchhiking slug theory sounds like a bunch of crap to anyone other than me?
itz216
Non-member
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If it is a toxin then running some carbon and doing a couple of large water changes would prove ( or at least narrow) the theory.
As for the sea slugs ...if there are enough of them - as in covering the glass - then maybe they could produce enough toxin to stress the fish. Think Flatworms ...
Good luck with this amazing fish.
If it is a toxin then running some carbon and doing a couple of large water changes would prove ( or at least narrow) the theory.
As for the sea slugs ...if there are enough of them - as in covering the glass - then maybe they could produce enough toxin to stress the fish. Think Flatworms ...
Good luck with this amazing fish.
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Sherri
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Well, just about any theory can be crap really because no ones knows what to do with these guys. The hair algae is gone from the tank so the sea hare has passed on to the next reefer to clean his tank. It seems as if the slug population has dropped. He still is not eating but maybe he thinks he has a weight problem, want to clean out his digestive system and has decided to fast. You know the first step to good health is a clean colon. Or maybe he is on hunger strike until I find him a girl. Choose the option that makes the most sense!!!!
tigerslacrosse4
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in all serousness good luck with this bind
jackthestrat
DON'T PANIC
True, true. I wonder if the diet thing and the eye thing are separate issues. What kind of lights is he under? As a Scorpaenid, does anyone know if they are susceptible to "lionfish blindness" from too-bright lights?
Then as far as diet goes - I thought I saw that you were feeding him thrice weekly? Maybe let him poop whatever he's got going on out and then try some live ghost shrimp or something other than silversides?
What does he have for "cover" in his tank? Macroalgae?
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Sherri
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I have an aquatinics T5 fixture with 5 bulbs that are not high in par. Full lights are on for about 5 hours a day. He can go under rocks and get out of the light if he wants to -- but he doesn't seem to care. It is a softy tank with macroalgae. He hangs out in the algae a lot. He did poop yesterday. I am going to get some ghost shrimps this week. He did completely ignore a live feeder fish ...
jayman10134
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any news on the rhino?
