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Tell me I didn't just see a Flame Angel....
- Thread starter niftyjosh
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jamesdong009
Anthony
I'm glad my laptop was on mute because I KNOW i didn't want to hear the nonsense coming out of her mouth. ALL of those animals looked uncomfortable and cramped especially the saltwater fish.
chris03079
Non-member
How many tangs do you think someone will stuff in there?
littlefish09
2012 BOD
so you mean i dont need a 200 gal tank to have 8 clowns a flame angel and 2 sweetlips. why has everybody told me i do. i hate you all. LOL
The Ng Thing
Non-member
I would like to squeeze her in a bio-bubble
jango
Non-member
at least 3 unicorns
Those poor fish.
littlefish09
2012 BOD
i was thinking a dragon eel with a crosshatch trigger pair
sumpmonkey
Non-member
how do you get gas exchange with a 2 inch diameter surface area.I'm gonna wait for the bigger version and put a manatee and a stingray in mine
OP
OP
niftyjosh
Non-member
Oh your waiting for the 8 gal.
jarrodsanborn
Non-member
OMG. im so pissed right now. It would be a good tank for a trio of sexy shrimp and maybe a small goby....maybe.
rnaodmletetrs
Non-member
I sent the company an email pointing out how pretty much everything in the video is wrong and sends out a bad message to those starting out in the hobby.
I know they don't care, Im sure I wont get a response.
I know they don't care, Im sure I wont get a response.
rnaodmletetrs
Non-member
So they actually did respond, this is what they wrote:
Hi Nicholas,
The BioBubble has a powerful filter, turns over many many times its volume of water and comes with an air pump to keep the system oxygenated with fantastic gas exchange. Users of the BioBubble get the opportunity to learn the discipline of the attention to detail required in order to be successful at keeping saltwater fish in any system. Our video and illustrations show advanced uses for marine applications but the vast majority of BioBubble customers start with 1 or 2 small fish and learn what it takes to maintain a healthy environment. I can not tell you how many times I have seen people new to the hobby get sold bigger traditional aquariums only to wipe out dozens of fish time and time again because they did not know or were not taught the basics. We believe that our product, even sold in volume, has a smaller impact on the environment of aquatic wildlife because it lends itself to housing aqua cultured livestock be it fish or inverts and it makes keeping a small system interesting and affordable so hobbyists can experience, learn and advance on a smaller scale.
Additionally, the versatility of the Biobubble offers even more benefit, those individuals who do not wish to dedicate themselves to keeping saltwater on an ongoing basis have a pathway with the BioBubble to move on to and experience other creatures, reptiles, small animals and educational projects all promoting an appreciation of nature and our environment of which aquatics is just a part. Experience and education leads to conservation and that in my opinion is what this world really needs. However, those who do educate themselves and keep salt water successfully in their BioBubbles are well prepared and likely to move to larger systems with a much greater chance of preserving these wonderful creatures.
Please try to view our product and the marketing materials in the context for which they are meant, that is to excite, engage and create interest among new and advanced hobbyists, but know that our product can and has done what we claim it to do. It has under gone vigorous testing for years before being launched to the public. Also know that our marketing efforts put the BioBubble into independent stores where consumers can be provided the attention and guidance needed for their level of commitment in these endeavors. As a company we are dedicated to educating our clients about all aspects of fish keeping and we provide exceptional customer support to both our end users and independent resellers.
Sincerely, Al
Hi Nicholas,
The BioBubble has a powerful filter, turns over many many times its volume of water and comes with an air pump to keep the system oxygenated with fantastic gas exchange. Users of the BioBubble get the opportunity to learn the discipline of the attention to detail required in order to be successful at keeping saltwater fish in any system. Our video and illustrations show advanced uses for marine applications but the vast majority of BioBubble customers start with 1 or 2 small fish and learn what it takes to maintain a healthy environment. I can not tell you how many times I have seen people new to the hobby get sold bigger traditional aquariums only to wipe out dozens of fish time and time again because they did not know or were not taught the basics. We believe that our product, even sold in volume, has a smaller impact on the environment of aquatic wildlife because it lends itself to housing aqua cultured livestock be it fish or inverts and it makes keeping a small system interesting and affordable so hobbyists can experience, learn and advance on a smaller scale.
Additionally, the versatility of the Biobubble offers even more benefit, those individuals who do not wish to dedicate themselves to keeping saltwater on an ongoing basis have a pathway with the BioBubble to move on to and experience other creatures, reptiles, small animals and educational projects all promoting an appreciation of nature and our environment of which aquatics is just a part. Experience and education leads to conservation and that in my opinion is what this world really needs. However, those who do educate themselves and keep salt water successfully in their BioBubbles are well prepared and likely to move to larger systems with a much greater chance of preserving these wonderful creatures.
Please try to view our product and the marketing materials in the context for which they are meant, that is to excite, engage and create interest among new and advanced hobbyists, but know that our product can and has done what we claim it to do. It has under gone vigorous testing for years before being launched to the public. Also know that our marketing efforts put the BioBubble into independent stores where consumers can be provided the attention and guidance needed for their level of commitment in these endeavors. As a company we are dedicated to educating our clients about all aspects of fish keeping and we provide exceptional customer support to both our end users and independent resellers.
Sincerely, Al
rnaodmletetrs
Non-member
And heres my response:
Thank you for your reply Honestly I wasn't even expecting one. Your introductory video is portraying pretty much everything you shouldn't do when it comes to fish keeping.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. You aren't providing a good start in educating those new to the hobby. I agree with you when you say that a bigger the tank doesn't necessarily guarantee being successful but it sure as hell is a much better starting point then the BioBubble. There is no way the tanks illustrated with the 5 Clown fish/Flame angel and the tank with the two grouper will be successfully kept long term. One example, The clownfish will pair up, and when they do will become aggressive, protecting their territory, There is not enough space for them all to have their own territories, They will kill each other, or get stressed out because of the constant chasing and fin nipping to the point of becoming more susceptible to ich/other diseases and dying that way.Heck at the size the clownfish are now one is too big for that tank let alone five, and they will atleast double in size, On top of that you throw in a flame angel and while they are one of the smaller species of angel fish, it still will outgrow that tank
The groupers will simply Grow larger then the BioBubble itself, no amount of filtration will make a fish three times the size of the tank fit, and there's two in there along with a decorative centerpiece which looks like it takes up a good 75% of the already severely limited space.
Exciting, engaging and creating interest among new hobbyists is great. Im all for getting more people into keeping aquariums. But they should be educated properly. They should research the areas they're interested in learn about the creatures they're responsible for keeping alive, You say you are dedicated to educating you clients about all aspects of fish keeping, But you're teaching them wrong. Cramming lots of pretty fish in your tiny tank and telling them its ok to do the same is not being responsible, its bad information but it helps you sell more product which at the end of the day is what its all about.
Why not keep the tank with the 5 clown fish and the angel running for 9 months. Testing water parameters bi weekly and posting the results along with videos of the tank and its progress on youtube. Publish your maintenance rituals as well
Thank you for your reply Honestly I wasn't even expecting one. Your introductory video is portraying pretty much everything you shouldn't do when it comes to fish keeping.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. You aren't providing a good start in educating those new to the hobby. I agree with you when you say that a bigger the tank doesn't necessarily guarantee being successful but it sure as hell is a much better starting point then the BioBubble. There is no way the tanks illustrated with the 5 Clown fish/Flame angel and the tank with the two grouper will be successfully kept long term. One example, The clownfish will pair up, and when they do will become aggressive, protecting their territory, There is not enough space for them all to have their own territories, They will kill each other, or get stressed out because of the constant chasing and fin nipping to the point of becoming more susceptible to ich/other diseases and dying that way.Heck at the size the clownfish are now one is too big for that tank let alone five, and they will atleast double in size, On top of that you throw in a flame angel and while they are one of the smaller species of angel fish, it still will outgrow that tank
The groupers will simply Grow larger then the BioBubble itself, no amount of filtration will make a fish three times the size of the tank fit, and there's two in there along with a decorative centerpiece which looks like it takes up a good 75% of the already severely limited space.
Exciting, engaging and creating interest among new hobbyists is great. Im all for getting more people into keeping aquariums. But they should be educated properly. They should research the areas they're interested in learn about the creatures they're responsible for keeping alive, You say you are dedicated to educating you clients about all aspects of fish keeping, But you're teaching them wrong. Cramming lots of pretty fish in your tiny tank and telling them its ok to do the same is not being responsible, its bad information but it helps you sell more product which at the end of the day is what its all about.
Why not keep the tank with the 5 clown fish and the angel running for 9 months. Testing water parameters bi weekly and posting the results along with videos of the tank and its progress on youtube. Publish your maintenance rituals as well
rnaodmletetrs
Non-member
Nah the 3.5 gallon, 8 Gallons is a bit crazy don't you think, The fish will get lost in a tank that large, And that's just irresponsible fish keeping
