Would you put your sump near your Boiler and Water Heater?

[Cherokee_Dude]

Trying to map out where I can put a basement sump and I have pretty much a direct shot below the tank. Only thing is that it would be right next to my new gas water heater and NG Boiler (Hot water Radiators).
I could put up a wall, but then I'd end up with my sump closed off in the workshop area. I'm thinking it would not be good getting wood shavings or concrete dust in the sump

Am I overly concerned with it being near the heater and boiler?

 

[Turbosnail]

I have mine next to my forced hot air gas furnace and gas hot water heater and have had no issues with it.

 

[frank180reef]

might be cool if u could place it near a sink. so u can turn a valve and have the water go into the sink when u want to do a water change.................... what would the issue be for the boiler and water heater? mine around around 6 feet away

 

[Flame Angel]

I am no expert, but I would think you would want to consider the following:

Salt over spray rotting out the heating system.
CO2 unless you have some airflow in the cellar.
Humitity from the tank causing mold issues, but the heater may help with evaporation.
No with evaporation you may need to consider covering certain aspects of your design to eliminate the overspray, evaportation and O2 exchange.

Just things to keep in mind, but see what others have to say.

 

[Cherokee_Dude]

might be cool if u could place it near a sink. so u can turn a valve and have the water go into the sink when u want to do a water change.................... what would the issue be for the boiler and water heater?

Saltwater/spray near the metal rusting it out is the main concern. and I'm thinking of setting up a T off of the return to push it to a drain line directly to the street. Good idea about the sink.

I am no expert, but I would think you would want to consider the following:

Salt over spray rotting out the heating system.
CO2 unless you have some airflow in the cellar.
Humitity from the tank causing mold issues, but the heater may help with evaporation.
No with evaporation you may need to consider covering certain aspects of your design to eliminate the overspray, evaportation and O2 exchange.

Just things to keep in mind, but see what others have to say.

Thanks, these are some of the concerns I have. I would set up a dehumidifier to run on a timer (Mostly summer, I imagine) and the basement is crazy drafty, so I'm sure co2 exchange won't be a problem, lol!

Does anyone actually cover their sump? Maybe a sump canopy or something like that? BTW - I'm getting a rubbermaid tub for the sump.

 

[Flame Angel]

Does anyone actually cover their sump? Maybe a sump canopy or something like that? BTW - I'm getting a rubbermaid tub for the sump.

I have seen some sumps partially covered to help with evaporation and spray, but not totally covered as you do not want CO2 to build up. Is this one of those hugh rubbermaids they use on the farm?

I have seen some use plexiglass to partially cover.

 

[delta]

It will affect your entire cellar. I ended up framing out a corner and insulation the room. Then I added a bathroom fan to remove the moisture. Otherwise the cellar just gets way to damp. Putting saltwater next to something that costs upwards of 8-10k to replace for me is not worth the risk

when I had it in the open I built a 2" insulation surrounding which reduced heat loss and salt spray but the moisture was still a major issue

 

[Cherokee_Dude]

I have mine next to my forced hot air gas furnace and gas hot water heater and have had no issues with it.

How long has it been there? do you have it covered? and have you seen any rust? That's the part that really concerns me, although it would take a very long time, I imagine for rust to eat through that black gas piping that's used.

Is this one of those hugh rubbermaids they use on the farm?.

Yes, it is. I agree that I need to keep it partially uncovered at the very least, maybe I could do the plexi the long way of the watering trough and keep the open end facing away from the boiler, etc... Does that make sense?

Thanks again everybody! I really appreciate the help.

 

[Cherokee_Dude]

It will affect your entire cellar. I ended up framing out a corner and insulation the room. Then I added a bathroom fan to remove the moisture. Otherwise the cellar just gets way to damp. Putting saltwater next to something that costs upwards of 8-10k to replace for me is not worth the risk

Yikes! That's kind of what I was afraid of. Do you have any pics? I kind of remember an old thread {Was it yours???} that showed something like this build. Part of the reason for the post actually.

 

[delta]

Wasn't mine I never posted picture of my sump room

 

[frank180reef]

I partially cover mine, but now that u mention it the support beams that are very near one of the tanks has some rust.................

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[Flame Angel]

Wasn't mine I never posted picture of my sump room

Correct, never posted at least from what I can remember. Some have asked to see through the years for a reference. I know I would love to see it. No pressure, Greg!

 

[THE WOOKIE]

it may get to hot, if i was doing a basement sump i would put it in my garage so the concrete would act like a chiller in the summer.