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has anyone used these lights?

I bought their 96W fixture for my 35gal in September and I LOVE it. Coral color and growth has never been better, and the price can't be beat, especially since you get a 2 year warrantee on top of that. Search some of the national forums and you'll see some other people compare them to their radions with excellent reviews.
 
i have the taotronics fixtures and love them but i just want something more controllable. guess its time to start saving:D
 
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Looks promising. Since they use name brand LED chips, they should be quite comparable to those high end units. There is no rocket science to build LED, high price just high mark up.
Also, Someone told me that a premium computerized LED controller can be had for less than $60 oversea. I never check them out myself but the controller are simple devices.
 
Looks promising. Since they use name brand LED chips, they should be quite comparable to those high end units. There is no rocket science to build LED, high price just high mark up.
Also, Someone told me that a premium computerized LED controller can be had for less than $60 oversea. I never check them out myself but the controller are simple devices.

Comparable, yes -- but I wouldn't say that there's too much mark up when you consider all the costs.. think about it -- the big companies innovate, put the money into research, building prototypes, etc etc. Then they have to build in markups to make it worthwhile for retailers to sell them, pay their marketing, support, engineering staff, etc etc.

After all that is done, other builders just take the key concepts and build the bare essentials for a lower cost. They didn't have to put in the time, effort and money that the other companies had to. So ofcourse their cost is lower and they can sell for less.

Just so it's clear, I'm not taking sides -- just giving the full picture. In fact, in the near future, I am thinking about getting low cost light fixtures made myself based on our studies and experiments.

P.s. sorry about going off topic.

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wow looks good.
 
Is anyone interested in a group buy? If so, I will be happy to contact reefbreeders and get pricing. I would be buying 6 units so I think that would be a good start. If anyone is interested please PM me with contact information and the number of units you would like to purchase. Iwill be placing an order on December 6th, hopefully.
 
. In fact, in the near future, I am thinking about getting low cost light fixtures made myself based on our studies and experiments.

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That will be great. You are right that since there is no patent to protect the company who did the reseach, everyone can come up with a "me too" and sell at a more competitive price.
Making your own can be very do-able. Last time I check, you can buy 10watt LED chip for less than $1 oversea shipped. Just check on eBay will show some amazing retail price already. Also, eBay sells IR remote LED controller for less than $25. Dimmable 12w driver for $12.
 
Is anyone interested in a group buy? If so, I will be happy to contact reefbreeders and get pricing. I would be buying 6 units so I think that would be a good start. If anyone is interested please PM me with contact information and the number of units you would like to purchase. Iwill be placing an order on December 6th, hopefully.

6 unit at 120w each? how big is your tank?
 
Putting together a 96" 300 gallon.
 
Bought it from Glass Cages/
 
The biggest issue now with LEDS (much, much arguing on RC) is spectrum in the 420 nm wavelength, which is supposedly the wavelength most used by corals. So, at least as far as the argument against LED's is concerned, that unit looks to have 4 LED's with 410-420nm's. That's good but isn't tons. You also may want to consider supplementing with some T5 pure actinics to raise your 420nm intensity. I personally don't have much intensity in the 420nm range on my LED's and am supplementing with T5's for that reason, which really does seem to help.

Looks like a good unit though, let us know how it does and what optics you went with. One word of caution switching from MH/T5 to LED-- many of us bleached out our corals right away. LED's have crazy amount of PUR per PAR, much higher than MH/T5, so I would start really low and acclimate higher when you first start out. For me, it seemed like they were normal intensity until a few weeks later when even my zoa skirts were white.
 
Very good point.
 
you are right, they looks the same.
 
They are the same lights, Reefbreeders is a re-seller of the Evergrow lights. He uses a custom led layout on his fixtures, although you can also do that if you order directly from Evergrow. The biggest difference is that if you have any problem with the fixture you ship it to him and he fixes it under the 2 year warranty, if you have a problem with a direct purchase from Evergrow they try to talk you through fixing it yourself or you have to send it back to them and since they are in mainland China the shipping will cost you as much as the light.
 
I think they are Bridgelux
 
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