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RO/DI Basics Help

dg13

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OK - I've finally gotten tired of lugging gallon containers of distilled water home from the grocery store and need to do something else. I have been hesitant to do anything with RO/DI because of the waste. First question - is there another alternative to RO/DI? If no, which I think most of you will say, I have a few questions. My tank is in my basement next to a very small sink that is in a closet. I would like to hook the unit up to the faucet on an as needed basis and have a 30-50 gallon container in the closet to store the water. The faucet is not a standard kitchen size faucet it is smaller. Will I be able to hook up a RO/DI unit to this faucet and if so will I be able to put it on and take if off as needed? Are all RO/DI units the same? Can I get something of of eBay that is reasonably priced without worrying that it won't work correctly? Are the replacement cartridges the same for all RO/DI? Will I be able to make 30-50 gallons at a time and store it in a closed container or will it need an airline, pump, etc.? Sorry for all the questions, I am just looking for the basic info on units and set up.

Thanks.
 
Lots of questions,

You can hook it up directly to the pipes under the sink. I forget the specifics on this, but a lot of people do it that way.

You can turn it on and off easily. IIRC, The fittings that go right on the pipes have an on off valve/tap thing. You can also install simple $5 john guest ball valves in the input line to turn it on and off. RODI can also be set up with autoshut off kits, these use a float valve in the holding container and a pressure activated shut off valve on the RO unit itself (container fills to the float valve an shuts it, closed float valve creates back pressure on the output of the RODI causing the shut off valve to shut the RO unit off)

You can leave the water in a holding barrel, no problem. Keep a powerhead in there to keep the water airated and to avoid having bacteria growing on the water surface.

There is an alternative to RODI, but not very common as far as I know. You can set up a just DI system. To do this you want to use 2 seperate DI resins in seperate filters. By using the 2 part resin (instead of the usual "mixed bed" DI resin) you'll be able to recharge the resins but I'm not clear on how difficult/labor intensive this is. Otherwise using just DI mixed bed resin would be way more expensive that RODI. IIRC, the biggest advantage of the just DI system is that there is no waste water. (with RODI you will waste about 4 gallons of water for every one gallon of product water).

Generally, RODI setups are universal in that the membranes and filter cartridges are interchangable between brands. BUT - not all membranes are created equal. Filmtec membranes are top notch, others may be questionable to crappy.

Good RODI units can be had on e-bay, but there are also ones that come with junk membranes exct. Ask around. There was a thread here about one of the good ones in the last few days.

Main differences between units other than quality of the membrane;
# of stages. 4 stage systems work fine, 5 stage have an extra, more course (5 micron) first stage sediment filter which makes the fine sediment (1 mircon) and carbon filters last longer saving $.\
Membranes come in different GPD ratings. Filmtec 75GPD are very nice because they produce very high quality water (high rejection rate) and do it fairly quickly. Personally I see no benifit in getting a slower rated membrane as it saves very little $ to get the same water but much slower. If you go higher that the 75GPD the water quality goes down some (at least with the filmtec membranes).

WWW.airwaterice.com is probably the most popular RODI supplier that I know of. They have great prices, great customer service, and generally blow away most competetors. Even if you get your original RODI unit elsewhere, they are probably still the place to go for replacement filters, membranes and whatever else you will need over time.
The Typhoon III unit comes with everything you would want (5 stage, pressure gauge, bypass/flush kits installed, autoshutoff valve, and IIRC a TDS meter) for a great price.

Did I miss anything? :)
 
Thanks Jimmy - your response was very helpful. It's the hooking up to the pipes under the sink and the float valve, shut off valve, ball valve thing that I have a problem with - I am plumbing challenged :) I am going to check out the airwaterice site. I don't need anything larger than 75 GDP - I don't think I need even that much.

Thanks again.
 
I bought one from Airwaterice.com... 75g.... Sat in my cellar for a week because I'm plumbing challenged too. I pulled it out finally and could not believe how easy it was.... I was pissed for not opening the box when I got it.. it took me little time to set up. Easy
 
I got my watergeneral unit on Ebay for around $100. Got it in August and still testing 0 TDS today. I think it is a 100pd. It is a 6 stage unit.

I am getting ready for pre-filters and Walter at AWC told me the 3 pack will fit.
 
i'm a pipefitter, maybe i should not have said that on BRS, if you take a pic of under your sink i will tell you just what you need.
 
i'm a pipefitter, maybe i should not have said that on BRS, if you take a pic of under your sink i will tell you just what you need.

Thank you! I will do that tomorrow - lights are off now.
 
Recommendation of RODI

I would recommend the Typhoon III at
www.airwaterandice.com

It is a great unit and for a while came with a $35 TDS meter.

Good luck with it. It is a lot easier than dragging water.





OK - I've finally gotten tired of lugging gallon containers of distilled water home from the grocery store and need to do something else. I have been hesitant to do anything with RO/DI because of the waste. First question - is there another alternative to RO/DI? If no, which I think most of you will say, I have a few questions. My tank is in my basement next to a very small sink that is in a closet. I would like to hook the unit up to the faucet on an as needed basis and have a 30-50 gallon container in the closet to store the water. The faucet is not a standard kitchen size faucet it is smaller. Will I be able to hook up a RO/DI unit to this faucet and if so will I be able to put it on and take if off as needed? Are all RO/DI units the same? Can I get something of of eBay that is reasonably priced without worrying that it won't work correctly? Are the replacement cartridges the same for all RO/DI? Will I be able to make 30-50 gallons at a time and store it in a closed container or will it need an airline, pump, etc.? Sorry for all the questions, I am just looking for the basic info on units and set up.

Thanks.
 
i'm a pipefitter, maybe i should not have said that on BRS, if you take a pic of under your sink i will tell you just what you need.

Here are the pics - any input would be appreciated.
 

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OK - I told you I was plumbing challenged :)

Hopefully these pics are better. I think the water line is the thin copper pipe - it looks like it connects to where the faucet is. This sink is in the basement with a pump for when too much water goes in the sink ( I assume because the sink is lower than the main drain in the house?)
 

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RoDI unit

I would recommend the Typhoon III from air water and ice that I bought.
It is plug and play and everything is labelled with tags. They have everything you would want in a 5 stage unit and they give you a free $35 TDS meter.
Their customer service is great. If you're missing something or need help they are right there for you. Great price.

www.airwaterandice.com

Good luck.


OK - I've finally gotten tired of lugging gallon containers of distilled water home from the grocery store and need to do something else. I have been hesitant to do anything with RO/DI because of the waste. First question - is there another alternative to RO/DI? If no, which I think most of you will say, I have a few questions. My tank is in my basement next to a very small sink that is in a closet. I would like to hook the unit up to the faucet on an as needed basis and have a 30-50 gallon container in the closet to store the water. The faucet is not a standard kitchen size faucet it is smaller. Will I be able to hook up a RO/DI unit to this faucet and if so will I be able to put it on and take if off as needed? Are all RO/DI units the same? Can I get something of of eBay that is reasonably priced without worrying that it won't work correctly? Are the replacement cartridges the same for all RO/DI? Will I be able to make 30-50 gallons at a time and store it in a closed container or will it need an airline, pump, etc.? Sorry for all the questions, I am just looking for the basic info on units and set up.

Thanks.
 
Typhoon III vs. Compact

I was looking at getting the Compact model for $139. It also has a TDS guage and auto shutoff. Is the Typhoon that much better (and why?) to pay $199. ?


Thanks, Rick
 
OK, well I already asked this in another thread but I am looking to get filters for my kent marine HI-s that was given to me. I have no idea what this unit needs. guy told me "it will probably need filters soon" it puts out about 12 gallons per day so I'm guessing it needed filters last year:rolleyes: (but hey it was free) I was looking at the 3 pack of pre-filters that the site mentioned sells and was wondering if these fit the kent unit and if they are all I would need? I don't have a tds meter so I don't know what I'm currently putting out either.
this is the unit I have:
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I'm pretty sure that the kent has standard filter sizes. Does that have a Di stage? If not you might want to get one to bring tds down even further. You could also switch out the ro membrane for one that will give you more gpd.
 
I'm pretty sure that the kent has standard filter sizes. Does that have a Di stage? If not you might want to get one to bring tds down even further. You could also switch out the ro membrane for one that will give you more gpd.

specs:

Hi-S RO/DI System Feature

* Disposable Mixed Bed Resin Cartridge
* Carbon Block Pre-Filter
* 1 Micron Sediment Pre-Filter
* Available in 35gpd and 60gpd
* Deionizing resin with a color change indicater to indicate when you need to replace the DI resin
* Hi-S SIlicate Removal Membrane (remove up to 99%of silicate)
* Silicamax disposable cartridge (High Silicate Removal Deionization Cartridge with built in Exhaution Indicator)
* GPD: 60
 
if you have the 60gpd unit you should be getting around 35 or so gallons of water in a day. Do you know what your water pressure is? If it is low it would explain the low gpd.
 
I'm really just guessing that the pre-filters are clogged horribly. this unit doesn't have any "options" no back flush, tds meter or bypass.
 
just got an email back from airwaterice and they told me which filters I should order. three filters and an inline tds meter for $68 shipped. not bad and quick response too
 
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