LED Lighting

[JCheung]

Hey anyone know of any companies that are creating LED lighting for aquariums like 10k light bulbs? Like instead of MH, PC, or T-5 using LED bulbs. theoretically they are much more efficient and produce less heat.

 

[RichConley]

theoretically they are much more efficient and produce less heat.

None of the ones available are theoretically more efficient or produce less heat than MH bulbs.


That being said, a company called Aquailluminations (I believe) is releasing a fixture using the Seoul Semiconductor P4 LEDs, which do about 100 lumens/watt, which is about where halides are. (The solaris does about 25, for comparison).

The Aquailluminations fixture may be the first one thats actually competitive. When LEDs reach about 120-130 lumens per watt, they'll be more efficient than MH/T5.

 

[Reef55]

pfo solaris is the one currently on the market.

 

[JCheung]

Yeah i said they were theoretically more efficient than flourescents. Yes the current ones that are necessary for home usage are not as efficient as flourescent.
That being said for things like spot lighting they are already there, traffic lights, the stupid blue leds that are in all electronics now, those are already in the 500 lumens per watt range i believe, they have a prototype 1000 lumens per watt LED already but its not for home usage. Because it is very directed light.
On top of that they don't have mercury or other serious toxins and last 5 times as long. So i would like LED lighting to come out as soon as possible. Too bad they still haven't gotten the manufacturing processes down to make them cheaper.

 

[RichConley]

those are already in the 500 lumens per watt range i believe, they have a prototype 1000 lumens per watt LED already but its not for home usage. Because it is very directed light.

No, theyre not.

Theyre prototyping in the 135 lumen/watt range. 500 may not even be possible, and 1000 certainly isnt possible.

 

[Greg Hiller]

>last 5 times as long<

This could be a big factor for us. How many of us wouldn't like to have some more blue light that wouldn't fade. If you could get some really powerful blue LED's they'd probably be small enough to add to just about any fixture we already have.

 

[JCheung]

I forgot where i read it but it was a very new development of a 1 lumen bulb for 1 milli watt which would equate to 1000 lumens per watt

 

[JCheung]

There is also a 1000 lumen LEd but that is pretty inefficient.

 

[Yaktop]

http://www.aquaillumination.com/

someone buy one and post what you think

 

[Aquaman_68]

http://www.aquaillumination.com/

someone buy one and post what you think

Bend over rover!! I think your a good candidate

 

[JCheung]

yeah no
Length (in inches) Price (USD) Early Adopter Price (USD)
12 $850.00 $765.00
24 $1320.00 $1188.00
36 $1890.00 $1701.00
48 $2490.00 $2241.00
60 $3075.00 $2767.50
72 $3660.00 $3294.00

 

[jc9394]

The price is not that bad when you compare to the high end hqi or t5 fixture. Considering it will last longer and no additional heat.

 

[JCheung]

its 90w of power per foot of lighting and are comparable to 250w MH lights. the only plus is that they're modular for the price.

 

[smcnally]

The price is not that bad when you compare to the high end hqi or t5 fixture. Considering it will last longer and no additional heat.

I disagree... 60" LED fixture is $3075.00

A 60" 3x250W MH setup would run about $1000. Add 5 years of bulb replacements ($1200) and that is a total of $2,200. The LED fixture would have to save you about $70 a month over the MH (which I doubt it does) Just to break even. Now...also remember that in this example, now we have a 3x250 W mh with brand new bulbs, and an LED fixture that is now DUE to have the bulbs replaced and I'm sure they are pretty pricey!

 

[smcnally]

BTW, I do agree that LED lighting will be the way in the future... IMO, it is just too new and too pricey right now.

 

[JCheung]

yeah manufacturing processes aren't as advanced as incandecent, flourecent, and metal halides are. There is currently no economies of scale with them just like solar panels. There just needs to be a catalyst for the industry to start mass producing these things. As soon as that happens these things will be dirt cheap.

 

[RichConley]

IMO, it is just too new and too pricey right now.

It is, but it absolutely spanks the solaris, and isnt really any more expensive...which is a good sign.

 

[Joedes3]

I use blue computer lights on my nano for moonlight

 

[jc9394]

I disagree... 60" LED fixture is $3075.00

A 60" 3x250W MH setup would run about $1000. Add 5 years of bulb replacements ($1200) and that is a total of $2,200. The LED fixture would have to save you about $70 a month over the MH (which I doubt it does) Just to break even. Now...also remember that in this example, now we have a 3x250 W mh with brand new bulbs, and an LED fixture that is now DUE to have the bulbs replaced and I'm sure they are pretty pricey!

Well, it all depends what you consider as high end HQI.

A Giesemann cost you 2300
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merc...uct_Code=GM-251-873-K&Category_Code=Giesemann

A Sfiligoi Infinity XR4 HQI 3 x 250w with T5 cost 3300

 

[PThanh1968]

I just notice LEDs are widely use today.
Bright LED is not cheap. I built moonlights, they cost around $5.50 for one, $20 for 5 from DIY Electronics in Needham.