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Dragon2115's 180 Tank Build

Dragon2115

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Ok, for all of you people out there that are now laughing at me and thinking "I told you so", you were right. I should have known better. :rolleyes:

Anyway, for the unfamiliar, the history on how this came about is pretty typical. My wife and I took up diving and decided to get a nano for the living room to have a little piece of the reef to look at the rest of the year. We both said we’d be happy with that but I knew going in it was a lie and that we’d get a larger tank at some point. And so four months later our 46g came online. And it even fit in the living room. Great DIY experience. But after reading about people crashing their tanks, and figuring that since we’re still newb’s, we’d better setup another system for redundancy. So up went the 30g. The two systems are running great. We’ve had our fair share of problems but overall things are going very well. The major disappointments have been, the work required to maintain two systems, the fact that neither system is large enough to support more than one large coral colony(and we have several that I really want to let grow), and the amount of space required for top off water and equipment like CA reactors that would increase the stability of the system while also reducing the workload.

The inevitable happened and Lisa and I began discussing a larger tank in order to consolidate the two systems to address the issues above. We also wanted to reduce the noise level in the living area as well. We have a FW and two SW tanks running in a fairly small area and it’s just too noisy with all of the pumps running. Surprisingly we got approval from the landlord to run lines down to the basement and all of a sudden a large system became possible. (I think they secretly like the tank more than they're willing to admit and want to see a large tank almost as much as we do.) So we bought a used Glass Cages 180 with starphire front glass and will be bringing it home at the end of January. I'm still looking for anyone that would like to help on the 27th to move it from a cargo van in front of the house and into the first floor. The only catch is that I think the tank will have to be stood on end in order to maneuver the front hall. But I have a wheeled dolly for that. Location is Arlington. Pizza and beer for any takers.

The plan is to plumb the 180 down to a 150+ gallon stock tank in the basement. Now I can have a large enough area to keep all of the bulky stuff like a calcium reactor and skimmer plus eliminate the noise of pumps in the living area. I’ll also be able to move RODI water production and storage out of my kitchen which will be especially nice. No more storing and hauling five gallon buckets through the house. I’ll be able to store SW and RODI water and use pumps to do all of the moving. No lifting at all. I am SO psyched for that. And, as a bonus there's a slop sink right next to where the sump will be. I’m also hoping that having the sump on the concrete floor will help with summer cooling. It would be nice to not have to worry about the temp spiking because I didn't turn on the AC and the weather got hotter than expected.

The reality of actually beginning this project hit last night when my ASM-G4 skimmer arrived. I took it out of the box and oh yeah, it’s Tim Taylor time, erh erh ah… :cool:
 
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this will be a fun post to follow.

keep us updated! good luck on the build
 
I’m also hoping that having the sump on the concrete floor will help with summer cooling. It would be nice to not have to worry about the temp spiking because I didn't turn on the AC and the weather got hotter than expected.

Congrats on the new tank. I recommend NOT putting the sump directly on the floor unless the basement is heated. The same "cooling" effect you are looking for in the summer, will turn into a heating nightmare in the winter.

The reality of actually beginning this project hit last night when my ASM-G4 skimmer arrived. I took it out of the box and oh yeah, it’s Tim Taylor time, erh erh ah… :cool:

Did you just get the ASM-G4? Does it have the sedra 9000 or the 5000. I have one, and even with all the mods, I think it's going to be a "little" undersized. :(
 
Hi Linda,

Yes it's the G4 with the sedra 5000. I chose it because of the lower power consumption and because it's supposedly good for a 350 gallon system. I figured that would be adaquate where even though my total volume will be around 350 - 400 gallons I'd only be stocking a 180. Am I about to be disappointed?
 
Congrats Jim! I know of this tank well because I plumbed it, and the system.
It is one nice tank to upgrade to. Have fun putting it together:eek:


Myk
 
Dude that is totally amazing! Congrats! It is so much fun to setup a new big system. I have just the right space for a 6' tank which I really want but it would impede the laundry room door therefore I guess the 120 stays! :(

Oh and nice skimmer BTW. can't wait to start seeing the build pics.
 
Am I about to be disappointed?

ummmmmm....:rolleyes: I'm thinking after a bit, you're gonna want to get a sedra 9000. That said, I started with the ASM G-4 on a 75 RR with a 30 gallon fuge and a 75 horse trough sump. I wound up upgrading to the sedra 9000 and then did the mesh mod and the gate valve mod. Never did the recirculating mod. That could make a big difference for you. Now, it's skimming a 125RR with a 75 gallon sump in the basement. It's holding it's own.
 
Congrats on the new acquisition! I'm thinking I should've gone with a 180 now that my tank is no longer going in a corner of my living room. :rolleyes: Oh well... something to shoot for in the future. You'll love the 6' length BTW. I had a 135 and the way it spans a wall is great.

I may be able to help move your tank on the 27th. What time of day?

Paul
 
Thanks everyone. I'm really starting to get excited about this.

Linda,

If worse comes to worse I'll have upgrade to the 9000 and relegate the 5000 to carbon/denitrator/phosban reactor duty. Not a total loss at least. In the mean time I'll look into the mods for it. I figure the load will be light enough that it should be able to keep up for at least the first 6 months. Btw, thanks for the tip on the over cooling. The basement isn't heated but it's pretty well insulated and not uncomfortably cool down there either. Maybe a 2" platform is in order. I could always do a swamp cooler for more heat exchange if I need it later.

Myk/Ray,

I've always admired the 6' tanks. I really like Reefermedics seven foot 210. It's gorgeous. But I have no room for a 7' tank and there's no way I'm going to 400 watt lights. Three 250's is enough for me. I'm trying to be as energy efficient as I can on this project.

Too Fly,

That would be awesome. I'm planning on around 2:00 - 3:00 pm if you're available.
 
Excellent. Thank you very much. PM sent.

Not sure exactly how much a 180 weighs. I'm guessing around 300 lbs. Myk do remember how bad this was to move? My son will be there to help as well. Lisa can move saw horses and the dolly. So what do you think, one more person or do you think we'll be able to handle it?
 
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Good luck moving the 180G, if I lived near you I would help.
 
Jim it was built solid, and the braceing is thick. Zax_papa, and I carried it in where you are getting it from. It is very bulky, but I can lend Marc the two wheeler to get it out to your van.

Myk
 
Update:

Well, I'm making progress. I finished making the pedestal, got the stand in, and moved the tank in. Where it's a used tank that had been shut down for a short period of time it was a little nasty and smelled like a beach at low tide. So after a couple of hours of tlc it's looking good again. I still need to climb up and clean out the overflow after I put some temporary plumbing on it so I don't make a mess.

Here's what I started with. The bird cages are being relocated in the room. In the first photo you can see the corner of my 30g. One of the cages will go there after the tank is shut down.



Here's the stand in place. I ran into two problems here. One, I didn't like the height. Second, thanks to the previous home owner, a set of Time/Life Home Improvement books, and a Saw-z-All, the floor is about as flat as the Himalayas. To solve these I decided to make a pedestal. This allowed me to contour the bottom of it to match the floor. After about a bazillion trips up and down the cellar stairs with a 2x8 I finally got a good match.



And so next is the first of what I'm sure will be many adventures to Lowes/HD. This trip was for the supplies to build the pedestal.



And finally here's the tank/stand/pedestal in place.



I really like the height of the tank now. It's matches the room, is easy to look at, and has the dubious benefit of needing a small step ladder (which coincidentally fits nicely inside the stand) in order for me to reach the bottom of the tank. This should hopefully inspire me to keep my hands out of the tank once things are in place.
 
Looks great! I hope one day to be able to hide/relocate all the extra "necessities" like this. I'll keep my eye out for updates.....

Keep up the good work :)
 
Looks awesome. :cool:

Is the pedestal open? Is it usable space, or does it just raise up the the height of the tank.
 
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