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Best way to bring down Nitrates?!

Good point, I was trying to avoid typing out a longer post so I went with the simpler answer. Activated carbon certainly can remove waste before it's broken down into nitrate.

So, is it safe to say it's like casting a "safety net" if you set up 2 reactors - One running "Carbon" and One running "Bio-Pellets"? Would that be an overkill? Or should I start with one and then another?
 
So, is it safe to say it's like casting a "safety net" if you set up 2 reactors - One running "Carbon" and One running "Bio-Pellets"? Would that be an overkill? Or should I start with one and then another?

No they accomplish two totally different functions I think you should do more research as to what you thinking about adding to your tank.

Carbon what is is purpose and how does it work in a reef tank? what adverse effects can it have?

Do the same with biopellets and GFO then decide on each separately

I think you are looking for someone to give you the ok, but if there is nothing wrong with you tank why would you start adding things? Especially if you do not understand them fully?
 
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There is no more effective way to reduce nitrates than through a water change. A 30% water change a month is actually very little. I do 25% a week or every other week depending on my water quality.

I mostly agree, accept water changes. If you remove the nitrate source, water changes help, but otherwise, people seem to usually find that N goes right back up, as more is released from whatever sink has developed in the system.

So, is it safe to say it's like casting a "safety net" if you set up 2 reactors - One running "Carbon" and One running "Bio-Pellets"? Would that be an overkill? Or should I start with one and then another?

I'm with Delta on this one. The GAC will remove organic carbon, the pellets will add it. So, they counter each other to an extent. Although, to add confusion, it is probably good to run GAC with pellets to remove bacterial byproducts, but the ratio should be considered carefully. I don't think either product should be used as a "saftey net" though, both can have detrimental effects if misused.
 
Besides everything that has been discussed already, driving your nitrates to 0 would kill all of your corals, or at least stop the growth. There has to be some N and P for corals to live.
 
Oh man, just when u think you r getting the hang of things...

Thanks for all the suggestions and ideas. I will do what I usually do and research this a little more...
 
Besides everything that has been discussed already, driving your nitrates to 0 would kill all of your corals, or at least stop the growth. There has to be some N and P for corals to live.


I think that is sort of true, although, getting to 0 is probably tough. Most moderately shallow water reefs will average about .2ppm nitrate. We can't really resolve that with our test kits. The ocean though has lots of food, but our tanks don't. Some corals can take up N, and as mentioned in the linked thread, N is not really harmful. So, a surrogate, for lack of food, may be increased nutrients, such as N (and other untested nutrients and food sources that tend to go along with N). The problem then is algae can also take advantage of this and grow well too. Sort of the basic concept of coral biology is corals out compete algae, because during the day their symbiotic algae produces energy and at night, the coral can feed, providing energy. Whereas, for other algae, there is only energy production during the day, when the sun allows photosynthesis.

If we replace feeding with N though, some corals may have a tougher time regulating their zooxanthellae, as often corals seem to do so via nutrient regulation. I.e. when a coral eats something, it passes some food to the zoox, depending on how much it wants the zoox to grow. As ocean levels of N are typically quite low, many corals probably haven't developed capabilities to limit N diffusion from the water to zoox. N levels are just so low, it probably isn't really as necessary in nature and too much algae growth, or symbiotic algae growth can be a problem.

The reefers who keep non-photosynthetic corals have found it best to feed a lot and filter a lot, rather than to leave food in the tank, to possibly decay. This sort of mimics a reef best, there is a lot of food, but not much nutrients. This is difficult though and for photosynthetic corals, probably not as necessary, as we don't need as much food. So, letting N rise a bit as long as algae isn't an issue, seems perfectly fine to me anyways FWIW LOL.
 
fact is corals can thrive with measurable nitrates. I feel that that only reason to control them it to keep excessive algae growth in check. I think people have gone too far with low nutrient tanks, there is really no need. This is why a well maintained fuge makes sense. You accept the fact algae grows in a reef tank, but you force it to grow outside the display tank.
 
I think that is sort of true, although, getting to 0 is probably tough. Most moderately shallow water reefs will average about .2ppm nitrate. We can't really resolve that with our test kits. The ocean though has lots of food, but our tanks don't. Some corals can take up N, and as mentioned in the linked thread, N is not really harmful. So, a surrogate, for lack of food, may be increased nutrients, such as N (and other untested nutrients and food sources that tend to go along with N). The problem then is algae can also take advantage of this and grow well too. Sort of the basic concept of coral biology is corals out compete algae, because during the day their symbiotic algae produces energy and at night, the coral can feed, providing energy. Whereas, for other algae, there is only energy production during the day, when the sun allows photosynthesis.

If we replace feeding with N though, some corals may have a tougher time regulating their zooxanthellae, as often corals seem to do so via nutrient regulation. I.e. when a coral eats something, it passes some food to the zoox, depending on how much it wants the zoox to grow. As ocean levels of N are typically quite low, many corals probably haven't developed capabilities to limit N diffusion from the water to zoox. N levels are just so low, it probably isn't really as necessary in nature and too much algae growth, or symbiotic algae growth can be a problem.

The reefers who keep non-photosynthetic corals have found it best to feed a lot and filter a lot, rather than to leave food in the tank, to possibly decay. This sort of mimics a reef best, there is a lot of food, but not much nutrients. This is difficult though and for photosynthetic corals, probably not as necessary, as we don't need as much food. So, letting N rise a bit as long as algae isn't an issue, seems perfectly fine to me anyways FWIW LOL.

Great post as always. I think the OP has had his question answered. Hahaha.
 
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