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Experiences with "Kick-Ick"?
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maxfischer
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some people say if your temp is above 82 it will kill the ich, do a search for this subject. i dont know if this is true, i have heard this a few times
RichConley
Attack of the Killer Cute
The way I understand it, is that the ich parasite's metabolism is dependant on temperature. When you raise the temp, it drastically speeds up the lifecycle of the parasite, which in conjunction with medication, makes it much easier to kill. (You can only kill it during 1 part of its lifecycle.)maxfischer said:
Triggerfish
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problem is that it's a "continuous lifecycle"..as long as there are fish around for it to host, it lives.
i had no luck with the product.
i had no luck with the product.
NateHanson
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I had good luck with the product when one of my fish had a very bad ich case. It began to clear up immediately with the first treatment, and after a full course I didn't have any further problems with Ich in that tank or the next tank. (not saying it irradicated ich from the system, but it seemed to get the tang past it's problem).
My only collatoral damage was a result of not running the skimmer for 2 weeks (the directions recommend this), so I had some algae problems afterwards for a few weeks. This would have been less of a problem probably if I had been using a better skimmer though (it was a bakpak).
I know a few others in BRS have also had good experiences with the product.
My only collatoral damage was a result of not running the skimmer for 2 weeks (the directions recommend this), so I had some algae problems afterwards for a few weeks. This would have been less of a problem probably if I had been using a better skimmer though (it was a bakpak).
I know a few others in BRS have also had good experiences with the product.
It's like puring water into the tank. Borrow or buy a UV sterilizer
NateHanson
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Wow! some serious bad feelings about Kick Ich on here. 
I'm actually suprised, because I thought in the past I'd seen a lot of qualified-positive experiences. (ie, not claiming it to be a cure-all, but helpful).
Have those of you with negative or positive impressions tried it yourselves or just heard bad/good things from others? (I'm not suggesting that the impressions aren't well-founded, just wondering how many people have tried it themselves)
I do think that if you have a limited infection (say one fish in particular) and catching your fish isn't easy (when is it easy?) then it might be worth it to give Kick Ich a try. My 2c.
I'm actually suprised, because I thought in the past I'd seen a lot of qualified-positive experiences. (ie, not claiming it to be a cure-all, but helpful). Have those of you with negative or positive impressions tried it yourselves or just heard bad/good things from others? (I'm not suggesting that the impressions aren't well-founded, just wondering how many people have tried it themselves)
I do think that if you have a limited infection (say one fish in particular) and catching your fish isn't easy (when is it easy?) then it might be worth it to give Kick Ich a try. My 2c.
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clamm
Nothing to nobody
Nate I shared your experience. It began to help quite a bit...I did turn off the skimmer and followed the dosing they recommened...seemed to work for me...
Problem is its only a temporary fix....IMO its goal is to get the fish on the upside of the battle so you get it healthy enough not to get ick again.
It is not a cure for ick.
Problem is its only a temporary fix....IMO its goal is to get the fish on the upside of the battle so you get it healthy enough not to get ick again.
It is not a cure for ick.
NateHanson said:Wow! some serious bad feelings about Kick Ich on here.
Have those of you with negative or positive impressions tried it yourselves or just heard bad/good things from others? (I'm not suggesting that the impressions aren't well-founded, just wondering how many people have tried it themselves)
I do think that if you have a limited infection (say one fish in particular) and catching your fish isn't easy (when is it easy?) then it might be worth it to give Kick Ich a try. My 2c.
Triggerfish
Non-member
skatezen said:
^ nothin like gettin right to the point..
Triggerfish
Non-member
NateHanson said:
both...not to mention there are no documented scientific studies published which prove the product does work.
NateHanson
Non-member
I'd agree that Kick Ich probably isn't a permanent cure for Ich. But then I also don't think that fish get ich just because it's present. They get ich because they're not healthy IMO.
Not meaning to be critical of your experience Jeff, but I'd point out that no treatment of 13 fish in a 46 gallon tank is likely to improve their health, if it doesn't include a drastic reduction of the number of fish in the tank, so it might be a bit misleading to tell people that a treatment didn't work under those circumstances. I don't think any treatment could work.
I'm not trying to start something, and I don't really think Kick Ich is a revolutionary product or anything. I've heard of it working for some people, and not for others. But this thread is starting to sound like a real bash-fest, and I'd like it to stay informative and helpful (both in the positive and negative experiences where each exists).
Not meaning to be critical of your experience Jeff, but I'd point out that no treatment of 13 fish in a 46 gallon tank is likely to improve their health, if it doesn't include a drastic reduction of the number of fish in the tank, so it might be a bit misleading to tell people that a treatment didn't work under those circumstances. I don't think any treatment could work.
I'm not trying to start something, and I don't really think Kick Ich is a revolutionary product or anything. I've heard of it working for some people, and not for others. But this thread is starting to sound like a real bash-fest, and I'd like it to stay informative and helpful (both in the positive and negative experiences where each exists).
skatezen
If you pick it, Flick it!
Nate,
I understand your concern about the number of fish in that size tank, I was new, but in my defense 6 were neon gobies - supposed to eat ick. It all stated with a contaminate coral beauty in which the symptoms appeared in a few days. That was the last fish I added.
But let's get back on topic.
I understand your concern about the number of fish in that size tank, I was new, but in my defense 6 were neon gobies - supposed to eat ick. It all stated with a contaminate coral beauty in which the symptoms appeared in a few days. That was the last fish I added.
But let's get back on topic.
Triggerfish
Non-member
NateHanson said:
unfortunately, stress or weakened condition is not a prerequisite to infection with c. irritans.
however, stress is a factor as it does reduce immune function in fish.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2003/mini1.htm
NateHanson
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skatezen said:
Yeah, I certainly didn't mean to put you on the spot, just wanted to clarify perhaps for newer members that extreme circumstances don't help (although those neon gobies hardly count as fish at all, do they?
) Did they appear to eat any of the ich?I should note that my case of Ich was also when I was new, and was keeping a hippo tang in a 30g tank!
It got sick after a couple temp spikes during the really hot April two years ago. Inexperience and poor husbandry definitely don't make Ich any better. I too can attest to that personally. reefphreak
Non-member
Kick Ick worked for me..... Along with buying a Cleaner Shrimp.....
Triggerfish
Non-member
from the link:
"Ultra violet sterilizers
Ultra violet sterilizers can help prevent the spread of infection between aquariums in a multi-tank system. When an ultra violet sterilizer is placed in the water flow between tanks in a multi-tank system it can eradicate theronts before they can spread into the next aquarium. However, UV lights are less effective at eliminating infection within a single aquarium. Free-swimming theronts can exit tomonts and infect fish before passing through an ultra violet sterilizer. This means that the parasite will continue its cycle life cycle within that aquarium (Gratzek, et al., 1983). Gratzek's study was performed with freshwater "ick" Ichthyophthirius multifiliis, but it is also believed to apply to Cryptocaryon irritans"
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2004/mini4.htm
"Ultra violet sterilizers
Ultra violet sterilizers can help prevent the spread of infection between aquariums in a multi-tank system. When an ultra violet sterilizer is placed in the water flow between tanks in a multi-tank system it can eradicate theronts before they can spread into the next aquarium. However, UV lights are less effective at eliminating infection within a single aquarium. Free-swimming theronts can exit tomonts and infect fish before passing through an ultra violet sterilizer. This means that the parasite will continue its cycle life cycle within that aquarium (Gratzek, et al., 1983). Gratzek's study was performed with freshwater "ick" Ichthyophthirius multifiliis, but it is also believed to apply to Cryptocaryon irritans"
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2004/mini4.htm
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