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jns or reef octopus skimmer?
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delta
Impatient Reefer
With the price point of the Octopus extreme I would go with it. Solid skimmer, efficient and compact. It is almost $100 cheaper and probably a better performing skimmer.
I say probably as I have no experience with the jns. But I see no reason other than the fact if I liked shark fins on my skimmer pump I might be inclined to by it.
I say probably as I have no experience with the jns. But I see no reason other than the fact if I liked shark fins on my skimmer pump I might be inclined to by it.
Bobbofin
Non-member
May I suggest a Octopus XP-2000 cone skimmer with the Bubble Blaster pump. I have a XP-1000SSS cone skimmer and I'm very happy with it's performance on my 60 cube. I've had it for almost two years.
Way too many starting problems with the Sicce PSK-2500 pump on the Octopus XS series, JNS, AquaMaxx and other skimmers. People are having problems with the new Sicce Syncra 2.0 & 3.0 pumps that JNS uses on it's skimmers getting noisy and slowing down if you look on RC.
I looked on Premium Aquatics, the JNS is $50 more than the comparable Octopus. It has a Sicce Syncra pump not the PSK-2500 people has problems with. People are having problems with Sicce Syncra pumps getting noisy and slowing down if you look on RC. Like Greg said, I'd go with the Octopus.
Way too many starting problems with the Sicce PSK-2500 pump on the Octopus XS series, JNS, AquaMaxx and other skimmers. People are having problems with the new Sicce Syncra 2.0 & 3.0 pumps that JNS uses on it's skimmers getting noisy and slowing down if you look on RC.
I looked on Premium Aquatics, the JNS is $50 more than the comparable Octopus. It has a Sicce Syncra pump not the PSK-2500 people has problems with. People are having problems with Sicce Syncra pumps getting noisy and slowing down if you look on RC. Like Greg said, I'd go with the Octopus.
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me2003
Non-member
I think the xs-160 is too small for your setup.
I think the design of the xs-160 is flawed. Having the pump under the
protein skimmer reduces the chamber size and contact time.
It looks to small for its rating and I am not sure if there is any basis for ratings on protein skimmers.
You may be paying 295 for a large paper weight.
Look at the specs of the two skimmers and compare them?
• JNS SHARK 2.0 needle wheel pump absorbs high air intake and optimum bubble size. amply mix the bubble efficiently.
• Footprint: 33 x 20CM (13x7.9")
• Pump(included): SHARK 2.0
• Pump power consumption: 22 Watts
• Air Intake: 720 LPH (110V/60HZ)
• Chamber Diameter: 15CM (5.9")
• Height: 58CM (22.8")
• Outlet size: 1 Quick-Precise adjusting valve
"JNS SHARK protein skimmers provide enough capacity of reaction chamber
and high stable cone body. Therefore, the SHARK is much more efficient
than traditional skimmers and full cone skimmers."
Reef Octopus Extreme 6 Inch XS160 (160 Gallon) In Sump Protein Skimmer w/ Gate Valve Information
Reef Octopus® Extreme XS 6" In Sump Skimmer
Dimensions: 8" x 10" x 21.25"
Rated up to 160gal.
Modified cone neck design designed for easy transition of micro bubbles into cup
Powered by Italian made Sicce PSK-600 pump
2 year warranty on pump
23scfh of air pull using the provided pinwheel impeller.
(Air results will vary depending on aquarium setup.) Each Sicce pump draws
less than 30watts of electricity.
Octopus Extreme 6 Inch XS160 (160 Gallon) In Sump Protein Skimmer w/ Gate Valve
I think the design of the xs-160 is flawed. Having the pump under the
protein skimmer reduces the chamber size and contact time.
It looks to small for its rating and I am not sure if there is any basis for ratings on protein skimmers.
You may be paying 295 for a large paper weight.
Look at the specs of the two skimmers and compare them?
• JNS SHARK 2.0 needle wheel pump absorbs high air intake and optimum bubble size. amply mix the bubble efficiently.
• Footprint: 33 x 20CM (13x7.9")
• Pump(included): SHARK 2.0
• Pump power consumption: 22 Watts
• Air Intake: 720 LPH (110V/60HZ)
• Chamber Diameter: 15CM (5.9")
• Height: 58CM (22.8")
• Outlet size: 1 Quick-Precise adjusting valve
"JNS SHARK protein skimmers provide enough capacity of reaction chamber
and high stable cone body. Therefore, the SHARK is much more efficient
than traditional skimmers and full cone skimmers."
Reef Octopus Extreme 6 Inch XS160 (160 Gallon) In Sump Protein Skimmer w/ Gate Valve Information
Reef Octopus® Extreme XS 6" In Sump Skimmer
Dimensions: 8" x 10" x 21.25"
Rated up to 160gal.
Modified cone neck design designed for easy transition of micro bubbles into cup
Powered by Italian made Sicce PSK-600 pump
2 year warranty on pump
23scfh of air pull using the provided pinwheel impeller.
(Air results will vary depending on aquarium setup.) Each Sicce pump draws
less than 30watts of electricity.
Octopus Extreme 6 Inch XS160 (160 Gallon) In Sump Protein Skimmer w/ Gate Valve
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mordibv
Non-member
Just curious .
Isn't a JNS and a Aquamaxx the same skimmer ?
I have never seen a JNS skimmer in person . It looks cool but seems over priced .
I think the width of the body more than makes up for the inside pump on the XS . U will see a lot of cones with smaller bodies in this price range
I had the older model and it was a lil finicky . Took a bit to fine tune it .
For 300 $$ I would shop around more .
One that comes to mind is a Bubble magus BM 180A touted to have a ATB body but uses an Atman 3000 pump . Can be had to the door for 275
Good luck on your choice .
Isn't a JNS and a Aquamaxx the same skimmer ?
I have never seen a JNS skimmer in person . It looks cool but seems over priced .
I think the width of the body more than makes up for the inside pump on the XS . U will see a lot of cones with smaller bodies in this price range
I had the older model and it was a lil finicky . Took a bit to fine tune it .
For 300 $$ I would shop around more .
One that comes to mind is a Bubble magus BM 180A touted to have a ATB body but uses an Atman 3000 pump . Can be had to the door for 275
Good luck on your choice .
inverted
Non-member
I agree, although, I think the Extreme uses a PSK-600. The PSK-2500 is an older generation pump that, that was never designed to be used in a skimmer, and had a lot of problems. The newer ones are supposedly more skimmer friendly, although I haven't heard much good or bad. I think most people go by the numbers and the BB pumps have better numbers. In reality, I don't know if the numbers make much or a difference though. The BB is an outstanding pump though IME.
Bobbofin
Non-member
I have had three Octopus skimmers and have been pleased with all of them. I would not skimp on a skimmer. I have and ended buying the one that performs better in the long run and cost me extra $$$. The Bubble Blaster pump is a beast at drawning air, the only choice for me if I had a 90 gallon tank would be the XP2000 Octopus Cone skimmer.
This is the pump used in the JNS skimmers:
http://www.marinedepot.com/Sicce_Sy...ter_Pumps-Sicce_USA-XJ1131-FIWPSBUF-4-vi.html
It is not a pump made for a skimmer, it's modified.
This is the pump used in the JNS skimmers:
http://www.marinedepot.com/Sicce_Sy...ter_Pumps-Sicce_USA-XJ1131-FIWPSBUF-4-vi.html
It is not a pump made for a skimmer, it's modified.
Bobbofin
Non-member
Super Space Saver XP-2000SSS, pump under chamber $499
http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/CV-XP-2000SSS.html
Standard XP-2000, pump beside skimmer body $459
http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/CV-XP-2000.html
If you have room in your sump get the standard. If you're tight on space in your sump get the SSS. I got the SSS because I'm tight on space in my sump. You won't be disappointed!
http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/CV-XP-2000SSS.html
Standard XP-2000, pump beside skimmer body $459
http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/CV-XP-2000.html
If you have room in your sump get the standard. If you're tight on space in your sump get the SSS. I got the SSS because I'm tight on space in my sump. You won't be disappointed!
Bobbofin
Non-member
mordibv
Non-member
Depends on how you look at it . Some people love to load up a tank with fish . Gives plenty of room for feeding or cushion in case some live stock dies .
If you know this is not you last tank and you can for-see a bigger one in a year or two , why not go ahead and kill two birds with one stone .If sell the skimmer later on when you need a bigger one plan on a 30 to 50 % loss on it . Add the cost of the new skimmer and you might see what I am talking about . Just my thoughts on the matter .
If you know this is not you last tank and you can for-see a bigger one in a year or two , why not go ahead and kill two birds with one stone .If sell the skimmer later on when you need a bigger one plan on a 30 to 50 % loss on it . Add the cost of the new skimmer and you might see what I am talking about . Just my thoughts on the matter .
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me2003
Non-member
"so ive been reading up on the xp-2000,some say its way over kill for a 90g"
I tend to agree and a xp-2000 is also way to expensive.
I would look more at the basics ex.
22" is not much height so placing a pump under it is a disadvantage here.
The 6 inch diameter of the XS-160 is also a problem.
You should be able to find what you need in the $ 275-350 range.
Also look a the many videos that a on You tube of people showing their skimmers working etc.
Noise can be a interesting issue.
The point that you may want to upgrade is true and only you know the answer to that question.
An upgrade to for example a 210 will require a lot more than just the cost of a new protein skimmer.
Many of us are obsessed with the hobby and have constant plans to upgrade. The limiting
factors tend to be how much space and how much weight the floor will hold.
Electric bills, building additions, re plumbing the house are not obstacles to these plans.
We find ways to rationalize the cost like installing a dehumidifier in the middle of winter.
We also tend to answer question on line. so if you believe this describes you go with the
xp2000.
I tend to agree and a xp-2000 is also way to expensive.
I would look more at the basics ex.
22" is not much height so placing a pump under it is a disadvantage here.
The 6 inch diameter of the XS-160 is also a problem.
You should be able to find what you need in the $ 275-350 range.
Also look a the many videos that a on You tube of people showing their skimmers working etc.
Noise can be a interesting issue.
The point that you may want to upgrade is true and only you know the answer to that question.
An upgrade to for example a 210 will require a lot more than just the cost of a new protein skimmer.
Many of us are obsessed with the hobby and have constant plans to upgrade. The limiting
factors tend to be how much space and how much weight the floor will hold.
Electric bills, building additions, re plumbing the house are not obstacles to these plans.
We find ways to rationalize the cost like installing a dehumidifier in the middle of winter.
We also tend to answer question on line. so if you believe this describes you go with the
xp2000.
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