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PBITAWA
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I am starting to put a list of fish I want for my 45 gallon (24×24×18) tank. I am thinking LPS/SPS mixed reef. This is not the final list, kind of trying to put a list that my son could pick from. I want him to be involved with the tank. I want a list where everything would be compatible, anything on here that would not work, or any other suggestions that might work well?
Yellowheaded Jawfish (Opistognathus aurifrons)
2xGreen Mandarin (Synchiropus spendidus)
Exquisite Firefish (Nemateleotris exquisita)
2xYasha White Ray Shrimp Goby (Stonogobiops yasha)
2xClown Fish probably Ocellaris

Thanks,
Christopher
 
I also think between the jawfish & gobies you have your sand bed "territory" taken up - a mandarin is not going to help that. Are you planning on 4-6" sand bed for the jawfish?

There are other little fun fish that might work as well - consider one of the blennies or gobies that perches among rocks a lot (most ecsenius blennies other than midas types, neon gobies, tigrigobius gobies, etc). I'm really a big fan of neon gobies as they are hardy and peaceful with pretty much everything, and have neat bold personalities. Possum wrasses are also neat.
 
If you go with spotted Mandarins you will be fine. But will be tough to support others in such a small tank.

As mentioned the Jawfish will need a DEEP sanded to be happy, and will outgrow the 40, as they get over 10"

Yasa Hashe are not territorial at all, so you have plenty of options to mix with them. Especially if you get a Pistol Shrimp with them, as it will keep them in one place lol

And there are several small Anthias that would do well. Dispar, Flavo, or a Sunburst

Any small Wrasse like Possum, pink streak Cryptic, leopard, any Flasher

If added last a captive bred Orchid Dortyback is always nice.
 
just throwing it out there... in my sons tank after years of only two clownfish I added a yellow watchman goby and a tiger pistol shrimp. Honestly they are awesome. They have a symbiotic relationship which is great to witness and to teach a child about. The pistol shrimp is constantly on the go and reshaping the sandbed, creating tunnels under the liverock, and the bottom of the tank is clear so you can sometimes see him under there. Hence the name "Ex" for the shrimp, as in excavator. Occasionally when looking at the tank or even just walking by you can hear Ex snapping his claw at snails and hermit crabs that come into his domain(almost sounds like two rocks striking under the water), the whole time the yellow watchman goby never leaving his side. IMO best $40 I spent on the tank. On top of all that they both have beautiful colors. I just recommend making sure your liverock is pretty stable, mine isn't glued or fastened together in any way and after a couple years haven't had any of it fall. My sons tank is a 40-45 gal that is 15" wide and there is some rock against the back wall which probably adds to its stability. Ive never noticed a shift.
 
Ok, thanks. I was thinking captive bred, do you think one of them will work? If not I will cross them off the list.
Hey there :)

Just wanted to share my itty bitty teeny tiny captive bred Biota mandarin experience with you. I ordered it, a yasha goby and a pistol shrimp from LiveAquaria. I was in absolute awe as to the sizes they arrived as. So very very small!! The mandarin was barely half the diameter of a regular frag plug! When I added them to the tank (biocube 29 gallon), I didn't see the yasha out much at all, it was definitely scared of my existing barber pole goby. Eventually the barber pole goby disappeared (open top)... never did find a body (I have a dog).... and the only residents of my cube are the yasha goby and shrimp, and the mandarin. It's been about six months maybe. Anyway... the mandarin just flutters around alot. It's grown significantly and appears healthy, but it's still small. It tends to stay in the shadows of the rockpile and macro algae, hunting.

The yasha hasha is out a good bit, but it hides when there is any noise or heavy steps on the floor. As far as feeding... The captive bred Biota mandarin doesn't participate in feeding time. At all. Could be because I spring for pods frequently from AlgaeBarn and it isn't hungry enough. The yasha is a very very passive feeder (to the point it won't cross the tank to get food from anywhere other than it's little quadrant.) So when I feed, I observe. I also started out feeding Cyclops (Elos canned) and I *think* one time the mandarin slurped up a piece on a rock and spit it out. I haven't fed with that in a while. I got tired of paying for it and only a tiny bit being used.

So, all this to say... I think in a 45 if you are willing to buy pods and not have other pod munchers (wrasses, pipes, just about anything cryptic and cool lol) it can be done, and done well. But please don't get a captive bred mandarin counting on it to eat prepared foods. You may get lucky, you may not. I haven't gone through all the work others have gone through to try to "teach" it either though. Buying pods isn't all that expensive, and they and the phyto I dose to sustain them also have other benefits to my tank. But, I have the worlds most peaceful tank and even with no feeding competition, that mandy won't eat prepared.

I'm looking for an open water swimming herbivore that won't freak out the yasha hasha. Or jump out lol I'm tempted to try to remove the yasha hasha and pass him along to another reefer just to not have to worry about it. Good luck with your tank!
 
With a fish list like you have, a bigger tank for sure. While I’m sure you can make lots of fish work in a small tank it’s just not something I would recommend...... especially not leopard wrasses. I like to think of fish in terms of where they swim in a tank and what they eat and try to limit competition in those areas.
 
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