Tangs / Cleaners

[Briko03]

I purchased a kole tang last night and the person who sold it to me felt pretty strongly that it was a good idea to get a cleaner shrimp with tangs. I got one just because the one in the tank was getting along well with the tang and I planned on getting anyways.

My question is more of, is having the cleaner really important or was this guy just trying to sell me stuff.

 

[Mr.Rodrigo502]

Well regardless cleanershrimps are always good in a reef, and if he said that its because tangs get ich by themselves when stressed.....so cleaner shrimps clean them off them but wont make them disappear........ Best thing for ich is kick ich....its what i use....just in case it happens to u 1 day...hoping it will not! Lol

SHRIMPS ARE ALSO GOOD TO KEEP UR ROCK AND SANDBED CLEAN AS THEY EAT WHAT EVER FOOD FALLS TO THE SAND OR IN BETWEEN ROCKS!....

 

[pallobi]

Cleaner shrimp do not eat/clean ich... and the best thing for ich, is copper or chelated copper in PROPER QT treatments, not "kick ich", and absolutely not to be treated in your display...

what cleaner shrimp will do is clean the gills/mouth/eyes of mucous and other things and parts of the fish's skin etc... and yes, cleaner shrimp, like all shrimp, are good at eating excess food that goes un-eaten by the fish themselves...

 

[Mr.Rodrigo502]

Cleaner shrimp do not eat/clean ich... and the best thing for ich, is copper or chelated copper in PROPER QT treatments, not "kick ich", and absolutely not to be treated in your display...

what cleaner shrimp will do is clean the gills/mouth/eyes of mucous and other things and parts of the fish's skin etc... and yes, cleaner shrimp, like all shrimp, are good at eating excess food that goes un-eaten by the fish themselves...

whoops i sound stupid now...........i guess u can take it from here.................

 

[JohnK]

Cleaners actually pick at the damaged tissue around where the cysts are or have been. Ick cysts are typically imbedded too deeply in the tissue for cleaners to get at them.

The interaction is definately cool though

Edit, Damm Neal posting the same thing I was saying, while I was distracted and forgetting to hit the enter key.....

 

[pallobi]

whoops i sound stupid now...........i guess u can take it from here.................

you dont sound sound stupid at all bro, jus giving my opinion, and insight... nothing more...

 

[tran]

when I had ick a year ago, I used the kordon ick attack or ick kick... thing and it did not work. it made the water smell stink even more.
After 4 1/2 weeks later, I came back to Petco and told them that this product did not work. The people at Petco even admitted that all the stuffs that they sell to treat ick do not work except Copper. I began to qt every fist from that point on and so far so good.

 

[stingythingy45]

whoops i sound stupid now...........i guess u can take it from here.................

Honestly,fwiu, up until several years ago it was widely believed that cleaner shrimp did in fact eat ich.
It wasn't until a biopsy was done on a cleaner shrimp to see what the stomach contents were.This showed no ich or cyst after cleaning fish that were infected.
I wonder how a cleaner would do with a parasite such as flukes?

 

[Mr.Rodrigo502]

my tank had ich at one point...and im guessing it was becuase it was a new setup...i had a red sea max250 and i had ich like crazy, i was recommended kick ich and it did work for me.........thats why i put positive words towards that product...i know copper is perfect to cure ich but i had corals and did not have a qt (i was bearly even learning how to mix salt) lol so i didnt know much nor did i have anyone to guide me....only the internet....well i did some research and came to the conclusion that cleaner shrimp dont eat ich, ich is under the skin, they do help erradicate the fish of it but dont cure it. only way to cure a tank of ich is copper which cant be used for a reef or inverts, or a slow drop down and do hyposalinity, or pull all fish out of tank and put in a qt for 6-8 weeks

 

[wrassefan]

I know it's been debated many times over but I'm not a big fan of copper on most fish. Most fish are too sensitive to copper and you have to make sure you are spot on with the copper levels...I'm still a believer of hypo in QT..again JMO over the years.