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Basement sump room

pbienkiewicz

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So I finally got the ok to build a basement sump room where I can also breed my B&W clowns and Wyoming white clowns. It is built off of a 6x5 foot area concrete pad.

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Very cool! Be sure to add enough ventilation mine gets plenty humid I added a bathroom exhaust fan attached to a humidistat so I can set the percentage
Cool old stone foundation too by the way!
 
sorry about the odd size pictures. I made sure I insulated the walls around the foundation too. I do already have a air vent pipe on the side of the house that I want to install a vent too. I wired 6 GFCI outlets into the walls. Each GFCI is pigtailed into the main power supply so if one trips it will not effect the other outlets. I have some sanding to do then I will build the benches. The right side wall bench will be lower and hold my sump. Then against the other wall I will build a higher bench to hold several drilled 10 gallon tanks. So this way when I pump to the main tank the pipe will split off to fill the 10 gallon tanks. (Ball valves needed) After the 10 gallon tanks are filled the gravity will drain the tanks back into the sump.
 
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I am going to put the 10 gallon tanks on the top bench (40x20). Below it I there will be two 5 gallon buckets with rotifiers below it. On the bench on right (51x20) I plan to put a 30 gallon sump with three chambers in it.

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I am trying to figure out which pump I want to use to feed my main tank and then branch off to fill the 10 gallon tanks. The height to the main tank is 9 1/2 feet up. Then two feet up then 3 1/2 feet across (40 inches) the top of the 10 gallon tanks. I am looking at the Pan World 50PX-X (A lot cheaper) or the Iwaki MD30RLXT Water Pump. Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 
That pump won't cut it. Max head is 13' which is what you are already at. Add 1' for each elbow and you're way above spec.

What are you looking for in flow?
 
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I realized that I forgot to mention that the tank on the first floor is a 75 gallon tank. I currently have a mag 7 on it which gives me a turn over rate of 9x an hour. The Pan World 50PX-X pumps 1150 GPH with a head of 13 feet which gives me a turn over rate of almost 15x per hour if it went straight to my 75 gallon tank. I currently have two power heads in the tank right now. Hydor Koralia 1150 and a Jebao WP 25.

The top bench will hold 3 maybe 4 (more like 4) 10 gallon tanks to breed my clown fish in. So the pump will have a Y plumbed to it. One going straight up to the 75 gallon tank then split off diagonally up 24 inches then horizontally 40 inches. Along the 40 inches I plan to put a T's in with a ball valve and a hose to fill the 10 gallon tanks.

So you which or what pump is recommended?
 
You are looking at max head for a pump all wrong. Max head is the height at which the pump will no longer pump. You are already trying to raise water 12 feet. Add 1' to that for each elbow in the line. The output of the pump is in the vendor's spec:
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Here's the specs for Panworld pumps. http://www.panworldamericas.com/pdf/pan world brochure.pdf

For what you are trying to do I would go with the 200-PS, That will give you about 1200GPH at 15' head. It is twice the price though.

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Thanks! Looks like I will pick up one of those at the end of the week. 290 watts lol. I was asked if this room will bring up the electric bill. No honey, the electric bill will not go up much.
 
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Keep the pictures coming.
 
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I realized that I forgot to mention that the tank on the first floor is a 75 gallon tank. I currently have a mag 7 on it which gives me a turn over rate of 9x an hour. The Pan World 50PX-X pumps 1150 GPH with a head of 13 feet which gives me a turn over rate of almost 15x per hour if it went straight to my 75 gallon tank. I currently have two power heads in the tank right now. Hydor Koralia 1150 and a Jebao WP 25.

The top bench will hold 3 maybe 4 (more like 4) 10 gallon tanks to breed my clown fish in. So the pump will have a Y plumbed to it. One going straight up to the 75 gallon tank then split off diagonally up 24 inches then horizontally 40 inches. Along the 40 inches I plan to put a T's in with a ball valve and a hose to fill the 10 gallon tanks.

So you which or what pump is recommended?



from my understanding is that , that Pan World 50PX-X has a max head lost at 13. Meanings at that max head lost, you get zero gph. How is it that you said you can get 15x turn over with that pump at that head lost.

With your new basement sump configuration, I think the pump probably will give you less than 50gph at the top of the return nozzle.

I used to use the stronger Pan world pressure rated pump (panworld 100px-x) and at 12 feet vertical up, I got about 350gph just so you know.


please be advised. thank you
 
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phg1960 covered it in post #10 with flow charts and explanation. But yea, much bigger pump than the 50 P-Px needed :)
 
So I got my pump a few weeks ago the Blueline 70HD and picked up a 40 gallon breeder for a sump and two 20 gallon longs. I drilled two holes in the 40 gallon tank and the two 20 gallon tanks. One of the 20 gallon tanks has two returns. One goes back to the sump and then can fill up the 20 gallon tank below it. There is a ball valve so I can limit how much water goes into the lower 20 gallon tank. I ended up drilling a total of 4 holes. Two holes in the 40 gallon sump and one in each of the 20 gallon long. 6.0.jpg7.0.jpg8.0.jpg9.0.png10.0.jpg11.0.jpg

Now I need to order some flexible spa hose for my return and my two drains.
 
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I also added a bathroom fan with the humidity sensor in it. I can turn it off with the switch or leave it on high or let the sensor do its thing. It will move 80 CFM.

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wow you are doing a awesome job. you can tell you put a lot of taught and a ton of experience in to your design. all i can say is wow great job.
 
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