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budboy

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I recently bought jebo odessy 192w pc lights not satisfied with results.I have a 45gl tank that is 36''L 12''W 25''h so its a pretty tall tank. I was told to go with MH 250w would be good. I just Want to keep beginner corals for now but add as I gain experience,so I dont want to buy lights again. if anybody can point me in the right direction please do. and if anybody have anything that will be good for me please dont be shy and PM me with price and location.
 
I'll ask a mod to move this to reef talk as you might get more responses.

Lighting is a very tough subject to answer with a one size fits all response.

I'd break it down to 3 things to keep in mind.

Electrical consumption (wattage):
Allot of people buy high watt lights with the bigger is better mentality. I'll be the first to say, there is no light like more light :) if I could afford to run 1000w lights you bet I’d have a set over every tank. I have always followed a basic rule of thumb.
175w for up to 21"
250w 22" to 30"
400 for 30" up.


Total investment
This is a tough one. (SE) Single end vs. double end (HQI). Allot of debate on how efficient the bulbs are (light spectrum) and their output of measurable PAR vs. SE bulbs. Fixtures can cost allot more than a retro kit, and quality makes a big difference in longevity of the product. A good warranty and great customer service could play a big role in your choice of what and where to purchase.

Versatility
Both SE and DE have their benefits. SE has more reflector options and doesn’t need a UV glass shield. Most HQI’s have a more focused light pattern than SE.


Ultimately it’s what works for you and your budget.
If you’re looking to MH, get the light that’s ideal for you now. Don’t suffocate your current system because you’re going to upgrade at some unknown point in the future.
 
I moved this out to Reef Talk for more visibility.
Hopefully you'll get some good advice on your lighting. :)
 
Well speaking from experience, beginner corals are called "beginner corals" for a reason. You most likely will get addicted to the hobby. Luckily you bought a Jebo fixture your first time around, so your financial losses in the lighting department will be minimal. I'm assuming the fixture you have has 2 PC bulbs each at 96W. if you do, only soft corals would probably be able to be kept in that tank...maybe some less light demanding LPS at the upper 1/4 of the tank would be acceptable.

I would recommend looking into metal halide, T5 and VHO fixtures, in that order. They are all relatively expensive to purchase (compared to PC's and especially comapred to Oddessy fixtures, which have a poor reputation for quality and such). Metal halides tend to be the best looking(love that shimmering effect), but most expensive to run. T5's have costly startup figures, but they are flourescents and they are the cheapest to run (aside from normal flourescents and power comact flourescents). VHO are almost as good and less expensive as T5's, but you can fit more light into less space with T5 setups (so you get more bang for your buck, if you need the extra bang). Ultimately your decision should be based on the following factors:
1) What type of corals am i most interested in and may possibly keep in the tank I am purchasing the light fixture for?
2) Do I forsee upgrading tanks or lights in the next 2-3 years?
3) What is the footprint of the tank and more importantly the depth (meaning will I have enough watts per gallon to keep the corals I plan on purchasing?
4) How much can I spend to purchase the lighting equipment to get started?
5) Based on my potential coral husbandry plans in the next 2-5 years, what would be most cost effective to pay for in the long run? (monthly electricty & yearly bulb repalcement costs)

I hope this helps. Lighting is the last thing you want to bargain shop for. If you spend the extra money now, you won't have to waste money upgrading in the future (see #4). But if you go overboard, then you will pay extra in the future for lighting your corals may or may not especially need (see # 5).

Personally if I were you I'd go with either a Sunlight Supply Tek Fixture (36' T5 High Output 4x39watt hanging light fixture or equivelent retrofit in a hood) or a pair of 150w Double End metal halide fixtures (for a mixed reef), or pair of 250w DE halides (if you may eventually focus largely on SPS). A single DE halide fixture will light an area approximately 2'x2' fairly well, to a depth of about 18-24". With your 36"x12" footprint, 1 halide isn't quite enough, and 2 are a bit of overkill for even high light demanding corals. 1 might work over the tank if you have a majority of soft coral and only plan on keeping a few SPS corals in the center and upper third of the tank. A T5 fixture would give you more even lighting and be cheaper to run long term, but you wpouldn't get as nice of a shimmering effect on the water surface, and probably a little slower growth of your corals.
 
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if you go with t-5, only go with Tek light from Sunlight supply.

Don't buy any Odyssea/Jebo unless you want to replace the bulbs right away.
 
FWIW,

I'm running a single 250DE pendant, over a 36x18x24 tank, and it covers everything really well. Theres plenty of light. IMHO, theres no need for 2.
 
45 gallon high tank has the dreaded center brace. 2x250w will dry the tank in no time. 2x150w sounds good.
 
If you go T5 go with the Tek 6 bulb and try and suspend it from the ceiling...I know it doesn't fit the tank with the silly legs....But who wants to spend 60$ on the legsa anyways....With my Tek 6 bulb I keep sps and lps no problem. If I was rich and didn't mind spending the extra $$$ on electricity I would go MH.
 
Thank you all for shedding some light on the subject.
 

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