Chuck Spyropulos
Non-member
I agree with Paula and Bec...it is too soon to vote. We should wait a few months and let things simmer down for a while.
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Upcoming BRS elections - full elections Oct 2nd?
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mantishunter
Non-member
"There are independent accountants lined up to audit the BRS. Have been since July.
Their schedule will determine when the audit gets done, but they know it should be done ASAP."
An accountant was interviewed in August by a breif phone conversation and a follow up email to handel BRS. He and his firm were not retained. Lined up? Had they been lined up they would not have been the Independant Auditor, they would have been BRS's accountants. To my knowledge there is no Independant Auditor lined up and no one qualified at the current time handeling BRS finances; making journal enterys, chart of accounts and P&L. Only making deposits and writting checks is being preformed. It would be missleading to suggest all is well and under control with BRS finance. Though I suspect all will be well in the end, at the moment it is being managed by blind faith. It takes several weeks to receive all the final receiveables and payables to an event. During that time it would be my hope that time BRS will secure a bookeeper and accountant to put to bed past events and leave BRS current and in a position that should an audit be conducted it will go well.
The reason the accounting firm was not retained was because their fee was $800 to file 2003 taxes and bring BRS to current status and it was decided it was too much money. You decide what is too much money to protect an organization who has a cash flow of more than $150,000.
Pay omage and give credit to those who met at Kellys several years ago. These are not those times and BRS is now not what it was then. There is still a place in BRS for all who have served the club well in its time and place. They should be recognized for all their achievements and continue to play roles in committees and fun events. Management is sometimes not fun, but there are those willing to take on those responsibilities leaving the rest to others.
Cronieism has undermined many an organization.
Please understand that Elections for officers are not to decide who you best want to be your drinking buddy, but who will best serve as Officers of a coproration with responsibilities. Were the BRS and it's recent business looked after responsibly I suggest most of us would still be drinking/fragging buddies.
Their schedule will determine when the audit gets done, but they know it should be done ASAP."
An accountant was interviewed in August by a breif phone conversation and a follow up email to handel BRS. He and his firm were not retained. Lined up? Had they been lined up they would not have been the Independant Auditor, they would have been BRS's accountants. To my knowledge there is no Independant Auditor lined up and no one qualified at the current time handeling BRS finances; making journal enterys, chart of accounts and P&L. Only making deposits and writting checks is being preformed. It would be missleading to suggest all is well and under control with BRS finance. Though I suspect all will be well in the end, at the moment it is being managed by blind faith. It takes several weeks to receive all the final receiveables and payables to an event. During that time it would be my hope that time BRS will secure a bookeeper and accountant to put to bed past events and leave BRS current and in a position that should an audit be conducted it will go well.
The reason the accounting firm was not retained was because their fee was $800 to file 2003 taxes and bring BRS to current status and it was decided it was too much money. You decide what is too much money to protect an organization who has a cash flow of more than $150,000.
Pay omage and give credit to those who met at Kellys several years ago. These are not those times and BRS is now not what it was then. There is still a place in BRS for all who have served the club well in its time and place. They should be recognized for all their achievements and continue to play roles in committees and fun events. Management is sometimes not fun, but there are those willing to take on those responsibilities leaving the rest to others.
Cronieism has undermined many an organization.
Please understand that Elections for officers are not to decide who you best want to be your drinking buddy, but who will best serve as Officers of a coproration with responsibilities. Were the BRS and it's recent business looked after responsibly I suggest most of us would still be drinking/fragging buddies.
JustDavidP
Non-member
Y'know... I'm dumbfounded as to why the "witch hunt" goes on. In the end, you will find, like our forefathers, that the "witch" doesn't exist. Having been the "host", those in the trenches you will all see the imperfections 100X over. Most of the "issues" were transparent to the majority of the attendees. I enjoyed myself as did countless others that I spoke with. STATISTICS HAPPEN. Something this large is bound to have a speedbump or two. IT WAS A SUCCESS....
*sigh* I, like many of you, joined BRS for a handful of reasons; to learn more about my hobby, promote what it is that we all need to do to keep the hobby/industry thriving, and finally..for friendships. The unfortunate circumstances of late, if left to fester, could bring an end to a good thing. If BRS continues toward the path of self destruction, I would not only lose an incredible resource, but lots of friends. We all stand to lose. Hell, I know my tank would suffer without the combined knowledge of BRS. I also know my liver would miss ya's too
I had such an incredible weekend with ALL of you at MACNA. Now, after returning from an unplanned business trip (was forced to give up attendance for Sunday and lose my fish and macros etc), I read all of the reef forums with a tear in my eye. It's got to stop. I can tell you this honestly, there is not one person that I've met through BRS that I do not like. Sure, there are some of you that I'd not take home to my momma but each of you brings something to the table. You make BRS what it is. It kills me to see guys and gals, who are documented in images and internet threads, holding, hugging, laughing over the years and are now at each others throats. Heck... stuff happens and dynamics change, friendships change too. It just hurts to see it all out in the open. I'm not telling you all to like everyone. I'm just asking that for the good of BRS, we keep it courteous, keep it down or keep it "off-line". We are losing face in the hobby... faster and faster every minute. It's got to stop.
If I learned just one thing durning MACNA weekend, it is that BRS is, and can continue to be a role model for other organizations. That surely not going to be the case if we keep creating our own "bad press". For those of you involved in the business end of MACNA, you did a good job. We can always have a "lessons learned" session because nothing EVER goes perfect. But, for the most part, it was a huge success. Continue to do what it is you have to do to clean up the mess and fix the current officer/BOD issues. We, the masses, will continue to attend meetings. We will vote and work hard to ensure that things stay on track.
For those of you who are not in the middle of the "business", please think twice and if at all possible, refrain from jumping into the muck and mire. We are all passionate about our hobby. We all look up to certain people within our hobby, but if you are not part of the problem, become part of the solution. Take this opportunity to be a ambassador for BRS, for the hobby. I don't mean to go out and post puffery about how wonderful we are .. this and that. I mean.. just refrain. Don't keep the threads going. Don't revive posts that could cause hurt or harm. Leave the business to the BOD and O's. Do your part and have your say during the elections and at meetings. Support BRS throughout the year at these meetings etc., but leave the business to the responsible persons.
With that said, I saw the most awesome event last night. Over many beers, and great Brazilian barbeque, I watched Gustavo's clowns lay. It was amazing. Thanks brother....
Reef on...
David
*sigh* I, like many of you, joined BRS for a handful of reasons; to learn more about my hobby, promote what it is that we all need to do to keep the hobby/industry thriving, and finally..for friendships. The unfortunate circumstances of late, if left to fester, could bring an end to a good thing. If BRS continues toward the path of self destruction, I would not only lose an incredible resource, but lots of friends. We all stand to lose. Hell, I know my tank would suffer without the combined knowledge of BRS. I also know my liver would miss ya's too
I had such an incredible weekend with ALL of you at MACNA. Now, after returning from an unplanned business trip (was forced to give up attendance for Sunday and lose my fish and macros etc), I read all of the reef forums with a tear in my eye. It's got to stop. I can tell you this honestly, there is not one person that I've met through BRS that I do not like. Sure, there are some of you that I'd not take home to my momma
but each of you brings something to the table. You make BRS what it is. It kills me to see guys and gals, who are documented in images and internet threads, holding, hugging, laughing over the years and are now at each others throats. Heck... stuff happens and dynamics change, friendships change too. It just hurts to see it all out in the open. I'm not telling you all to like everyone. I'm just asking that for the good of BRS, we keep it courteous, keep it down or keep it "off-line". We are losing face in the hobby... faster and faster every minute. It's got to stop. If I learned just one thing durning MACNA weekend, it is that BRS is, and can continue to be a role model for other organizations. That surely not going to be the case if we keep creating our own "bad press". For those of you involved in the business end of MACNA, you did a good job. We can always have a "lessons learned" session because nothing EVER goes perfect. But, for the most part, it was a huge success. Continue to do what it is you have to do to clean up the mess and fix the current officer/BOD issues. We, the masses, will continue to attend meetings. We will vote and work hard to ensure that things stay on track.
For those of you who are not in the middle of the "business", please think twice and if at all possible, refrain from jumping into the muck and mire. We are all passionate about our hobby. We all look up to certain people within our hobby, but if you are not part of the problem, become part of the solution. Take this opportunity to be a ambassador for BRS, for the hobby. I don't mean to go out and post puffery about how wonderful we are .. this and that. I mean.. just refrain. Don't keep the threads going. Don't revive posts that could cause hurt or harm. Leave the business to the BOD and O's. Do your part and have your say during the elections and at meetings. Support BRS throughout the year at these meetings etc., but leave the business to the responsible persons.
With that said, I saw the most awesome event last night. Over many beers, and great Brazilian barbeque, I watched Gustavo's clowns lay. It was amazing. Thanks brother....
Reef on...
David
littlep93056
Non-member
David, Gerri & I will bring more macros for you, just let me know if your going to the meetiing Oct.2 or to Marco's opening bash.
JustDavidP
Non-member
Thanks Mike...
I'm going to be rebuilding my sump and adding another fuge on within the next couple of weeks. I WILL take you up on that laters.
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I'm going to be rebuilding my sump and adding another fuge on within the next couple of weeks. I WILL take you up on that laters.
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JustDavidP
Non-member
Lam said:
BINGO
It would probably help with our "image".
littlep93056
Non-member
Sounds like a great idea , a members only (BRS PAID members)
littlep93056
Non-member
OK, then where & when is the next meeting ?
