Thank you turbosnail! Btw.. All of these were taken with a Sony cyber shot 10 mp with a macro lens built in, free hand(no tripod) and iso ranging from 80 to 300, no editing except cropping/ resizing. more to come, as i want to keep this thread going over the years, also to see if I can get better. Taking good photos in this hobby is a whole separate talent, with a definate learning curve.