Poll on moderation of the BRS forum

[RichConley]

I find that I dont think about the moderation, either way. Which, I think, means its just about right.

Its not like RC where you comment on a pic of a coral and say "wow, those are awesome, I wish I has some" and they ban you for trying to make trades in the specialized forums, and its not like some forums where if you ask a simple question, you get "Lam0r n3wbie, RTFM!"

Not too much, Not too little.

 

[~Flighty~]

Just playing around with the members list I'm surprised how many people there really are on here. 250 people who have at least 25 posts and have posted at least once in 2005.

 

[JustDavidP]

Rich,

You hit the nail on the head!! That's what I mean. I have been on Australian Shepherd boards and found that I had to re-write, re-think, re-everything because it was so OVER moderated that you had to be completely "sterile" in posting. It's a shame.

At BRS, I type and post on the fly. No problems, no thought. Yet, I also come on with my kids and never have a problem with content. That is the perfect level of Mod activity!!

Dave

 

[Chuck Spyropulos]

Moe, how many memners are there total in BRS?

 

[Chuck Spyropulos]

My mistake....I thought we had many more than 150 members. For some reason
(please don't laugh at me !!!) I thought we had like 600 members.......

 

[Moe_K]

165 paid members last time I checked.
Not sure how many "Friends of the BRS" there are right now.
That info gets tracked by the administrative system on the BRS homepage.

 

[ducker]

I tend to think it would be quite hard to mod here. Since for the most part it is rather "open".

When a thread is locked, a simple post as to why, would be nice. IMHO, deleting posts should never be done unless it's a post WAY outside of the "bounderies". something I don't forsee any member doing; but rather a new user posting "junk".

-Mike

 

[Moe_K]

There have been a few insults on here complete with the F-bomb, Mike.
They're very rare, but it does happen.

 

[ducker]

I'm sure peoples opinion of what is and isn't proper differs, but something like that I would think would require a Mod of the reply. Followed by a PM to the user notifying them that they need to clean up their posts if they wish to continue to post here.

I wouldn't expect to hear that kind of language at a BRS meeting. Why would I see/hear it here? And if people/users are unable to control their posts, then perhaps they shouldn't be posting. (for the record, I have not been following recent threads nor have seen any posts that I feel push the edge)

 

[TheUltimateNoob]

because people like to be cyber tough-guys. it's easier to say stuff like that on the internet as opposed to face to face with someone who could give you a smack down. haha.

i wonder who invented the f-bomb. i really do not like that word. it should never be used. ever.

 

[Greg Hiller]

Because people don't use their real names on the board, and they are not in person, they do not THINK first. One the old Compuserve Fishnet forum EVERYONE was encouraged to use their real names. People seemed a lot more civil to me there, but that was a long time ago.

 

[JustDavidP]

I happen to like folks who use their true names on boards...

I also think that in the bits and bytes, some of the "humor" etc. is lost and posts are just taken wrong. Now..there are those that can NOT be taken wrong, or misinterpreted, especially if we are tossing da bomb, but others..yeah...a simple misunderstanding that has been taken way out of context or whatever, due to the lack of personal contact blah blah blah...yeah emoticons are supposed to help... right. Now I'm offended by someones text that I misunderstood...AND to boot...there's a WalMart Logo sticking out a tongue at me too!!!

 

[Moe_K]

I happen to like folks who use their true names on boards...

I also think that in the bits and bytes, some of the "humor" etc. is lost and posts are just taken wrong. Now..there are those that can NOT be taken wrong, or misinterpreted, especially if we are tossing da bomb, but others..yeah...a simple misunderstanding that has been taken way out of context or whatever, due to the lack of personal contact blah blah blah...yeah emoticons are supposed to help... right. Now I'm offended by someones text that I misunderstood...AND to boot...there's a WalMart Logo sticking out a tongue at me too!!!

Yeah, this is true. There's no tone on BB posts. And there's no visible/audible reaction to what one is saying to gauge the way things are being said. It's an imperfect method of communication, but that means it should require more thought I guess.

 

[ducker]

Because people don't use their real names on the board, and they are not in person, they do not THINK first. One the old Compuserve Fishnet forum EVERYONE was encouraged to use their real names. People seemed a lot more civil to me there, but that was a long time ago.

Very true, but I'm guessing that the majority of posts that cross the line in some people's eyes aren't by posters that unknown in the forum.

Who's going to notice a post by a user that has posted 3 times in their lifetime dissappear?

On the flip side, if someone who has posted 500+ times, is a BRS member, posts something "over the line". Does it really matter if it's his proper name or a nick name? It will create a stir regardless on how they posted.

This is a public forum. If people can't behave accordingly they need to be excused. This whole thread itself is really just an open debate; with no real right or wrong reason. People's idea of what is and isn't sociably acceptable in public widely varies. The BRS simply needs to pick a line and stick to it.

G, PG, PG-13, R... If we want to keep this on the PG/PG-13 level if posters can not they simply need to have their access restricted. I would personally visit this forum regardless of the language here, but that's just me.

"we" left RC because of the amount of moderation going on there (my understanding). Caution must be used while moving forward here.

Bottom line, I don't believe it is a nickname issue. It's the people behind the posts; and perhaps a bit of vagueness on what is and isn't acceptable here.

-Mike

 

[ducker]

Mike, you have some really good points but I think you are making " drawing the line" look really easier than it is. The line, occasionally has to move up and down in order to accomodate new issues, new members, new points of view , etc.

It's really as easy/difficult as we want to make it. Personally I wouldn't want to make it overly complicated as the job doesn't pay well and isn't that glamorous.

I believe for the most part the majority of people know what is and isn't proper. I also believe that people at times do in fact get all hot under the collar and post before thinking. I've done it (not here but elsewhere). It's going to happen from time to time regardless of the rules.

That being said; I do tend to give people the benifit of the doubt, sometimes too often.

-Mike

<edit>
ok, mysterious disappearing posts... I replied to nothing now.

 

[Chuck Spyropulos]

Ducker, you have some really good points but I think you are making " drawing the line" look really easier than it is. The line, occasionally has to move up and down in order to accomodate new issues, new members, new points of view , etc. Sure it is easy to say "if u use the f-bomb" or " if you swear" or "if you threaten people" that you should be not just moderated but censored completely and possibly banned. The problem is with much more subtle posts that maybe 99% of us would not consider a problem, and that 1 or 2 or 3 people have problems with. What do you do? Do you censor everything. It is not an easy thing to do, to try and keep the beneficial information flowing while casting out the inflammatory or sensitive information.

I guess members (mee too!) really need to question themselves and ask how better can they serve this community by trying to treat everyone with the respect and dignity that they all deserve. It is sort of like a two-way sword: You can stab some one by WHAT you say or HOW you say it AND you can stab someone by assuming they are out to get you by WHAT they say or HOW they say it.

Checking your posts for things that may be misconstrued by other members as hurtful or insulting and thinking before responding to someone regarding a post you feel is "hurtful or instagating trouble" would make moderation much easier for the mods and the forum would benefit immensely. Because in the end, it is up to the members individually to make all of this stuff work!

 

[Chuck Spyropulos]

See?

ok, mysterious disappearing posts... I replied to nothing now.

Well, I was just censored... which I gues further illustrated the point that the line is hard to define

 

[Moe_K]

Thanks for fixing that, Chuck.

 

[Scuba_Dave]

Actually, if you think about it, we have more moderation here (faster) then at RC. at RC a thread would have to almost be a train wreck before it was closed/deleted. I don't mean they did a bad job, they just had a TON of posts & issues to take care of.
Here, we have more mods per user...think about it that way. Less posts, less users, means it seems stricter, simply because the rules are followed & enforced quicker
One idea of moving here IMO was not to avoid RC moderation - except maybe where it deals with sponsors & group buys. BUT, to take better control of "our forum" and better manage it.
Threads get heated, there is no way around that a lot of times. What begins as a discussion becomes a heated debate...then them tha'r fingers type faster then the brain can think

So I think this forum is better moderated then on RC. Simply because we have less posts, more mods per user, and they can react faster to problems.

Not f'ing bad!!! Big joke...everyone laugh.....please?

 

[Armando]

Lol.