now that i have your attention.yes i finally put my big boy pants on and bought me a red sea reefer 250 .best part is it was wife approved =) no headaches .i thought i was getting out with the baby finally here .but when i convinced my wife to move tank to different room in the house if i bought a new stand .well the new stand was not wife approved .so i showed her the red sea reefer 170.she said ok buy it. so i ordered the 250 =).lol let the upgrade begin my tank will be in on tuesday cant wait