The problem with the no positive feedback= bad store is that sometimes there are new stores, sometimes there are stores that not many people have been to, etc.lactrain said:This to me is controversial ... I can see people posting negatively about sponsors in their own personal forums ... but starting a thread on a pet store like Patnaudes where they have no knowledge of this site is in no way beneficial unless someone tips them off of it, not that they would care anyway, same as Petco. Can you see the point here.
To me education is describing the difference of what an ill fish looks like or what a healthy system looks as apposed to what is unhealthy, so they can determine for themselves. And besides one's common sense should dictate that if there are no postive feedback or no sponsorship then its risky business, which one should always assume when buying online.
The thing is, I had never heard of Patnaudes. I dont care if that thread hurts their business, as long as the thread is factual. If it saves some hapless newbie from buying something they can't handle, then it has served its purpose.
I completely, and utterly disagree with you on that one. Sponsors must be treated exactly the same as all other vendors. Their sponsorship agreement does not include us covering up for any poor practices they have. Their sponsorship includes certain specific rights, and being protected when they commit wrongs is not one of them.lactrain said:"Sponsors" are one thing and "Vendors" are another,
There are no provisions in the charter that give us the right to exclude sponsors by their husbandry habits. They are sponsors. They pay the bills for the right to advertise on the board. As it is, we have accumulated a larger number of sponsors, and we may in the future change this.lactrain said:Can I ask a question to the BOD: Would Petco ever be considered/allowed to be a sponsor of this forum/organization, I should hope not.
Vendors and buyers have different responsibilities.lactrain said:Im sure we are all guilty of this since when do we see a post in the frag swap thread asking the buyer what his tank specs are before the coral is sold. But we all would chastisize a vendor for keeping them in a system that is equivelent to it.
Its okay for me to take my truck offroading. Its not okay for the dealer to take it offroading before he sells it to me.
I agree with you on that one.lactrain said:To open a forum to allow people to critisize ones business (bread and Butter) on the fact that they dont smile enough, and relate it to customer service is beyond me. I would rather a vendor/sponsor not smile at me and sell me an item that is healthy and works appropriately, then not smile and burn me.
The problem is that people STILL aren't reading the rules. They go in and start spouting off what they heard from someone else, or start yelling that they got hosed, etc.lactrain said:IMO the intentions of the VE forum is good .... but I think its not working appropriately ... based on controversial threads like this... time to live with it cause its here to stay ... Im hoping that this thread was created to obtain ideas on how to improve on the rules of this controversial forum so improvements can be made, and not wasting our breathe.
I'm tempted to ask that there be no use of adjectives or adverbs in that forums. I think that would solve a lot of the issues.