One Eye said:Len and Chuck, I've been very aware of Chucks point for some time now.
As I have explained several times in the past. It needs to be first hand experiance because second hand info cannot be questioned.
EX: if you tell me your friend Billy Bob went to xyz and the store kicked him out because they didn't like his new mullet. Billy Bob is not a user of the forum.
1st, I can't ask Billy Bob why the hell he wants to wear a mullet anyway
2nd, the store can't defend against an acusation made by a third party.
Please read and comprehend this...thank you!
Chuck Spyropulos said:Yes, absolutely! In fact PJs is place that comes to mind. I like it because it is close and convenient for supplies and even Mysis now! But I don't go there for advice on Reef Tanks.
Evil Version Of Chuck said:Yes, absolutely! In fact PJs is place that comes to mind. I like it because it is close and convenient for supplies and even Mysis now! But I don't go there for advice on Reef Tanks because no one has any f'in idea what theyre doing.
Not okay, theres no way to verify. If you didnt see them feed babies to the groupers, then dont post about it. Let the person who saw it post.Evil Chuck 2 said:Yes, absolutely! In fact PJs is place that comes to mind. I like it because it is close and convenient for supplies and even Mysis now! But I don't go there for advice on Reef Tanks because I heard they feed babies to the groupers.
One Eye said:All right....we don't need a repeat of yesterday...I'm out of this, good luck people!
KAS said:Chuck and Lactrain, while I understand what you are saying, I believe that it would be the rare case that someone in this group would put a post up pretending to have a 1st hand experience they did not.
Also, I do not believe because there is a slight chance of this happening that we should open the floodgates and allow posts that clearly are not firsthand experience.
Obviously not everyone can understand or even try to understand my point of view.
Chuck Spyropulos said:Yes, absolutely! In fact PJs is place that comes to mind. I like it because it is close and convenient for supplies and even Mysis now! But I don't go there for advice on Reef Tanks. That is a negative comment that is not based on any facts or first-hand information so should it be deleted? NO! Do I want PJs to close? Absolutely not! Will PJs sue me? Of course not.
So when these "grey" area comments get posted they provide some information that would otherwise get deleted if the Mods followed the rules tothe "T".
KAS said:Did I misunderstand you?
lactrain said:What if I said: I remeber back in the day when Darren was burned by an online vendor .... would it be deleted.
That is second .... but its true! ... aint it! you know first hand!
KAS said:OK. As someone said, this is just a freakin' fish club. The forum rules are not really affecting any of us in any material way. Why is it so important to you Chuck and Len to fight for this issue?
I am not trying to be provoking or judgemental. i am really curious why you feel so passionate about this. It just doesn't seem worth all the aggrevation. So what if second hand info is not allowed because the club is concerned about libel/slander. They are the officers that would be directly sued not us.
I have chosen not to put myself in the position of making the rules, therefore if I choose not to be part of the process, then I don't get to criticize the outcome. ETA: This is just my opinion.
Good, glad to hear it (about the no big deal part).Chuck Spyropulos said:We are just discussing things....no big deal. In fact, I am not going to post here again. I presented my points and will cmove on and continue posting on other threads in the forum.
KAS said:OK. As someone said, this is just a freakin' fish club. The forum rules are not really affecting any of us in any material way. Why is it so important to you Chuck and Len to fight for this issue?
KAS said:I am not trying to be provoking or judgemental. i am really curious why you feel so passionate about this. It just doesn't seem worth all the aggrevation. So what if second hand info is not allowed because the club is concerned about libel/slander. They are the officers that would be directly sued not us.
KAS said:I have chosen not to put myself in the position of making the rules, therefore if I choose not to be part of the process, then I don't get to criticize the outcome. ETA: This is just my opinion.